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Old 06-19-2011, 08:54 PM
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I have a 2002 Bonneville with a straight 3800 (no supercharger) and 138,000 mi. It has a humming noise in the front end starting at 30mph and increasing in loudness up to and over 60mph. It sounded like it was coming from the left side so I checked the CV joints and found the inner joint to be loose. I replaced the entire drive axle including both CV joints. Still had noise. I checked the left front wheel bearing and found it had some play too. Replaced that and still have noise. I checked the right CV joints and their loose also.

My question is, I noticed when I pulled the drive axle out of the transmission on the left side, the splined shaft in the transmission was loose. It fell down and rested on the seal. I reached in and found it was very loose. I didn't know if this was normal or not. I went ahead and put the new drive axle on. There'* about 1/16 inch play at the inner CV joint housing. Is this normal? Doesn't seem to be any transmission oil coming out.

Not sure whether or not I should continue replacing drive line components or if the problem'* in the transmission. I'm not sure if the car'* worth major transmission work and therefore I'd be throwing money away replacing all the driveline components.

Does anyone know if the spline shaft in the transmission should be loose?

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The output shaft has nothing to hold it up when the axle is removed. It'* the axle that holds it in place. Are you sure the sound is coming from that area? Sometimes it'* hard to tell for sure.
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What kind of shape are your tires in..Try rotating them and see if the noise seems to move to another corner of the car
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Does the outside of the axle shaft fit into a bearing in the transmission? The axle shaft has two CV joints (fancy U-joints) on it. The one end is fixed in the wheel bearing. doesn't the other end have to be fixed in the transmission or you'll have 3 joints in line with no support? When installed, the inner CV joint housing has about 1/16" play when installed. Is that acceptable? normal?

I've had issues with tires howling before. These have been rotated regularly. I'm positive it'* not the tires.

It appears the right inner CV joint has splattered a lot of grease out but I cant find a hole in the boot. This joint also has some play in it. I'm hoping that'* the problem????
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If there is grease splatterd then there is a tear or hole in the boot and over time would cause that joint to howl
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i have a 03 bonneville with the n/a trans and have had the same prob with the noise it could be ur gears or clucths inside the trans or a bad tourqe converter or as simple as a bad tensionr pulley the easiest way is to get a tethascope and put it on ur trans itll be alot easier to pinpoint where its coming from but i have had the same prob since i had 130000 miles on mine i changed the fuild and the trans filter and put some lucas trans treatment in it and seems to be fine but try that if u are still getting the noise
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If there'* grease splattered around the axle, then replace it. The U joint is dry and will make noise.
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I just ordered the RH drive axle/CV joint assemble. I hope this takes care of it. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.

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No problem. Let us know how it goes. And if you have any problems installing it, just let us know.
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