1990 GP SE model starts then dies
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1990 GP SE model starts then dies
my 1990 pontiac grand prix SE model has a nonturbo 3.1 v6.
it will start just fine, and idle, but when i rev it up, soon it will cut out and die. i will try to press the gas pedal to keep it going, but it does nothing.
i have had a code for a MAP sensor and CRANK sensor, and i did replace those sensors. changed all spark plugs and wires, and i have a new airtex fuel pump and i bought a filter this spring.
i have spark as tested with a spark tester, and 42 PSI at the fuel rail which is in specs according to the CHILTON manual.
i have guessed before that it could be a oil sender switch, and i tried hot wiring the fuel pump to a toggle switch bypassing the oil pressure switch, and running it manually. it still dies....
please help thanks
-james, automotive service technician student. 1 year experience
it will start just fine, and idle, but when i rev it up, soon it will cut out and die. i will try to press the gas pedal to keep it going, but it does nothing.
i have had a code for a MAP sensor and CRANK sensor, and i did replace those sensors. changed all spark plugs and wires, and i have a new airtex fuel pump and i bought a filter this spring.
i have spark as tested with a spark tester, and 42 PSI at the fuel rail which is in specs according to the CHILTON manual.
i have guessed before that it could be a oil sender switch, and i tried hot wiring the fuel pump to a toggle switch bypassing the oil pressure switch, and running it manually. it still dies....
please help thanks
-james, automotive service technician student. 1 year experience
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ive seen the maf do this, not sure about the codes seems confusing. did you try giving the maf a few good whacks with a screwdriver see if it stumbles? ohm out to the pcm and inspect the sensors you replaced?
i had a 90 gp coupe put about 300k on it with out ever doing anything to the engine.
i had a 90 gp coupe put about 300k on it with out ever doing anything to the engine.
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only the early 88 2.8s got the MAF, the rest were all speed-density.
TPS can cause these issues, so at the very least take a multimeter and check voltage while opening the throttle, should smoothly change from ~.5 volts at idle to ~4.5 volts at WOT. obviously, do this with the key on, engine off. for a 90, dark blue is the signal wire, black is ground.
TPS can cause these issues, so at the very least take a multimeter and check voltage while opening the throttle, should smoothly change from ~.5 volts at idle to ~4.5 volts at WOT. obviously, do this with the key on, engine off. for a 90, dark blue is the signal wire, black is ground.
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ive seen the maf do this, not sure about the codes seems confusing. did you try giving the maf a few good whacks with a screwdriver see if it stumbles? ohm out to the pcm and inspect the sensors you replaced?
i had a 90 gp coupe put about 300k on it with out ever doing anything to the engine.
i had a 90 gp coupe put about 300k on it with out ever doing anything to the engine.
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traded in the car quite a while ago, have had several othercars since then.
i was working on my 88 olds cs 2.8 that had the maf issue, assumed they where the same.
i was working on my 88 olds cs 2.8 that had the maf issue, assumed they where the same.
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