Stage ratings for Engine Mods.??
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quote]You are limited to about 400 WHP with the Eaton M90.
Stage 5 - Eaton M112, T04E Turbo.... etc etc.[/quote]
At least until ZZP'* XPZ cam recently came out
Stage 5 - Eaton M112, T04E Turbo.... etc etc.[/quote]
At least until ZZP'* XPZ cam recently came out
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You are limited to about 400 WHP with the Eaton M90.
But like 13secGTP said, the ZZP XPZ cam has changed that. It is really unleashing some unfound M90 power. Zooomer has already dynoed over 390hp to the wheels, and supposedly still has plenty of room for inprovement.
But, I will also say that our GTP still having the stock cam and all, is making around ~320hp to the wheels, which would translate to ~400 crank hp. SilverBullet was exaggerating just a little bit.
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Is the Eaton m112 the one from a Ford SVT truck? I think I have seen a GTP with one of those installed.
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You are limited to about 400 WHP with the Eaton M90.
But like 13secGTP said, the ZZP XPZ cam has changed that. It is really unleashing some unfound M90 power. Zooomer has already dynoed over 390hp to the wheels, and supposedly still has plenty of room for inprovement.
But, I will also say that our GTP still having the stock cam and all, is making around ~320hp to the wheels, which would translate to ~400 crank hp. SilverBullet was exaggerating just a little bit.
ZZP is also using a LS1 TB which is 80mm. Not using the stock one anymore. so the Eaton can intake as much as possible and making more because also has intercooler. So denser air charge, but the limit for a STOCK M90 is 400WHP, it been proven on other cars. They increased the inlet size which allows a little more air that'* why they made 410WHP.
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OK let'* try that again.....now come on guys, just don't criticize, build on it.
Hp ratings are net at the flywheel based on factory rating of 240 hp for Series II M90 SC engines.
240 hp --- Stock
240 - 300 hp --- Stage 1 - cold air, pulley
300 - 340 hp --- Stage 2 - Stage 1 + headers, exhaust, rockers, PCM
340 - 400 hp --- Stage 3 - Stage 2 + cam, pulley, intercooler
400 - 500 hp --- Stage 4 - Stage 3 + head porting, TB, pulley
500 - 600 hp---- Stage 5 - Stage 4 + M112/T04E, Nitrous
Hp ratings are net at the flywheel based on factory rating of 240 hp for Series II M90 SC engines.
240 hp --- Stock
240 - 300 hp --- Stage 1 - cold air, pulley
300 - 340 hp --- Stage 2 - Stage 1 + headers, exhaust, rockers, PCM
340 - 400 hp --- Stage 3 - Stage 2 + cam, pulley, intercooler
400 - 500 hp --- Stage 4 - Stage 3 + head porting, TB, pulley
500 - 600 hp---- Stage 5 - Stage 4 + M112/T04E, Nitrous
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Don't forget important steps for each stage like 180 t-stat, and colder plugs. Also a tranny cooler. I think all of those would be stage one.
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ZZP is also using a LS1 TB which is 80mm. Not using the stock one anymore. so the Eaton can intake as much as possible and making more because also has intercooler. So denser air charge, but the limit for a STOCK M90 is 400WHP, it been proven on other cars. They increased the inlet size which allows a little more air that'* why they made 410WHP.
OK let'* try that again.....now come on guys, just don't criticize, build on it.
Just my $.02.
Shawn
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OK, Let'* try again. Isn't continuous improvement fun.
240 hp --- Stock with 3.8" pulley
240 - 300 hp --- Stage 1 - 180 Stat, Trani Cooler, Cooler Plugs, Wires, cold air cone filter, 3.4"pulley
300 - 340 hp --- Stage 2 - Stage 1 + headers, exhaust, rockers, PCM, 3.2"pulley
340 - 400 hp --- Stage 3 - Stage 2 + cam, intercooler, 3.0"pulley
400 - 500 hp --- Stage 4 - Stage 3 + head porting, TB, 2.6"pulley
500 - 600 hp---- Stage 5 - Stage 4 + M112/T04E, Nitrous
Instead of offering suggestions just copy and paste this rough draft and modify it as you think it should be and let'* just see if this evolves into anything.
240 hp --- Stock with 3.8" pulley
240 - 300 hp --- Stage 1 - 180 Stat, Trani Cooler, Cooler Plugs, Wires, cold air cone filter, 3.4"pulley
300 - 340 hp --- Stage 2 - Stage 1 + headers, exhaust, rockers, PCM, 3.2"pulley
340 - 400 hp --- Stage 3 - Stage 2 + cam, intercooler, 3.0"pulley
400 - 500 hp --- Stage 4 - Stage 3 + head porting, TB, 2.6"pulley
500 - 600 hp---- Stage 5 - Stage 4 + M112/T04E, Nitrous
Instead of offering suggestions just copy and paste this rough draft and modify it as you think it should be and let'* just see if this evolves into anything.
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