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Old 02-12-2007, 09:21 PM
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It should work but we need to do a little digging here.
What tranny is in the gxp? This switch is for a 4t60e but it has the same algorythm as the 4t65, might be the same for the gxp?
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PontiacDad
It should work but we need to do a little digging here.
What tranny is in the gxp? This switch is for a 4t60e but it has the same algorythm as the 4t65, might be the same for the gxp?
the GXP has the 80-e with 3.71:1 gears
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:28 PM
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thnx sle lol

im willing to attempt this if it shows it will work
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by clm2112
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Ick! What a complete waste. You're gonna intentionally make the car start off the line like a real dog? I'm glad the '94 V6 Camaro didn't come with that. Granted, most of the V6 F-Bodies came with 3 series gears in the axle and were a bit on the light side in back, but to actually design a circuit to make the car perform worse? What were they thinking. ( I smell some insurance lobbyist somewhere in this...)

Btw, you have the perfect traction control device built in already..it'* connected to your body just below the right ankle, and your shoe is convieniently wrapped around it.

As far as a drag racing aid...hmmm...if you are having traction problems that bad off the line, time to address the real problem..the contact patch between the tire and the drag strip.
Well i think the Traction control on the GXP SUCKS! and i remember this on my RS was better then well it was nice feature since i can still break traction with traction control on whats the point
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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just a note i would like to share

the second gear start is a form of traction control...

(my statements are for the GP)

i was reading the owners manual that was in the junkyard of a GP that had the second gear start button.... it says that its function is to gain traction in adverse conditions when the car cannot gain traction

since the Bonneville has a very state of the art Stabilitrak, and TC system there is no need for the traction point of view

i personally like first gear....its fun
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but im thinking off the line it would be bada$$ would it not?
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Why would you want to waste a torque multiplier?
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyAGXP
but im thinking off the line it would be bada$$ would it not?
your car would be slower

take a look at this.........

this is a 4T80-e trans ratio'*

1st gear
2.96

2nd Gear
1.63

think about that
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:00 PM
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ok again its a thought....

1. As stated i can pretty much run out traction control to the point it starts to shut off fuel so whats the point im losing time.
2. IMO it would be a good backup starting from the line in second to avoid spin.

just an idea i think the SGS would have been a far superior system if it had been further refined..
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:05 PM
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Thats why the circuit is desribed as bad weather starts, it bogs the engine down and keeps you from spinning on ice. Not a traction device for the track or any kind of spirited driving imo?
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