Does Rockers and A Cam hurt gas mileage?
02-19-2006, 11:45 AM
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Does Rockers and A Cam hurt gas mileage?
I was reading some threads and a guy I think dbtk2 or something like that, said "I might consider putting in a rocker set and maybe a cam but I don't want to hurt the gas mileage" He said that about a 99 GP GT that he recently brought. Is that true? I thought they were supposed to help as it helps the motor breathe and exhale more freely. I want a rocker set and a cam but if it'* going to hurt the gas mileage, forgetaboutit!
02-19-2006, 12:04 PM
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you dont do rockers and and a cam...you do one or the other.....if your doing a cam then you stick with the stock ratio (1.6) and then get a cam....if you dont plan on doing a cam then you do 1.8'* or 1.9'*...both need to have the correct supporting mods
and it is a myth that mods can hurt your gasmilage......
and it is a myth that mods can hurt your gasmilage......
02-19-2006, 12:07 PM
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You CAN do rockers and a cam. It'* done quite often.
You choose higher ratio rockers if you want to further increase lift on a cam that you're happy with the duration on.
And rockers and a cam CAN hurt mileage, but not by much.
You choose higher ratio rockers if you want to further increase lift on a cam that you're happy with the duration on.
And rockers and a cam CAN hurt mileage, but not by much.
02-19-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by willwren
You CAN do rockers and a cam. It'* done quite often.
You choose higher ratio rockers if you want to further increase lift on a cam that you're happy with the duration on.
And rockers and a cam CAN hurt mileage, but not by much.
You choose higher ratio rockers if you want to further increase lift on a cam that you're happy with the duration on.
And rockers and a cam CAN hurt mileage, but not by much.
02-19-2006, 12:26 PM
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Depends on what you're after. Rockers give you lift only.
Cams give you lift and duration depending on grind.
You may like the duration on a cam, but not the lift. Rocker it. Mix and match. The preferred method is to get a cam that suits both your duration and lift needs, but the point is you CAN do both.
With more air flowing into each cylinder, you also have to deliver more fuel in order to keep the ratio correct. More power can equate to efficiency, but only if you keep your foot out of it.
A cam will generally be less efficient at idle, as it'* trying to make power when you don't need it.
Cams give you lift and duration depending on grind.
You may like the duration on a cam, but not the lift. Rocker it. Mix and match. The preferred method is to get a cam that suits both your duration and lift needs, but the point is you CAN do both.
With more air flowing into each cylinder, you also have to deliver more fuel in order to keep the ratio correct. More power can equate to efficiency, but only if you keep your foot out of it.
A cam will generally be less efficient at idle, as it'* trying to make power when you don't need it.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Depends on what you're after. Rockers give you lift only.
Cams give you lift and duration depending on grind.
You may like the duration on a cam, but not the lift. Rocker it. Mix and match. The preferred method is to get a cam that suits both your duration and lift needs, but the point is you CAN do both.
Cams give you lift and duration depending on grind.
You may like the duration on a cam, but not the lift. Rocker it. Mix and match. The preferred method is to get a cam that suits both your duration and lift needs, but the point is you CAN do both.
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So, for everyday driving, which one do you recommend the most. I know that willwren knows a lot because look at his mod list.
I want some performance gain but i don't mind if it'* not a massive hp gain.
Which one do you highly recommend?
I want some performance gain but i don't mind if it'* not a massive hp gain.
Which one do you highly recommend?
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I personally would the rockers, with the necessary supporting mods....( if your not going to go crazy with the car) and it dosnet seem that you are....the rockers are relatively easy to install, compared to the cam
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You're right Pat, I'm not going too crazy with my car. BTW, what do you mean by necessary supporting mods? I assume a PCM and a CAI among other things? Oh I forgot to ask, could you run rockers on 87 octane?
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Originally Posted by Intense-Racing
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