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Ok according to my 2001 FSM (pg 5-119), all of the wires for each WSS go to the EBCM (electronic brake control module). There are 2 wires per sensor, a low reference and a signal. I guess it doesn't matter if you interupt the reference or the signal. Just find the 4 proper wires (as Rogue has stated that he now runs with all 4 of his disconnected), jumper them with some low loss relays and then run 1 wire into the dash for your switch.
Here'* the connector view to the EBCM (atleast for the '00+):
Here'* the connector view to the EBCM (atleast for the '00+):
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isnt there an ABS fuse you could wire into to break the ground and kill the ABS completely? Im pretty sure there is on my Regal, just not so sure about a Bonne.
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This is interesting and I'm following it pretty closely to see whats happening but to be honest I would not want to introduce another point of failure to the ABS/TC system. It takes litereally 30 seconds to remove the WSS'* and I just leave them off for most good weather driving. If it rains or snows I hook em back up.
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One could rig up a relaty inline with the ABS setup, instead of all the wiring. When it'* switched on, you have ABS due to a open Relay, when it'* off, you shut off the flow.
Your switch can trigger multiple relays to multiple systems.
Your switch can trigger multiple relays to multiple systems.
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Originally Posted by swartlkk
Would putting that much wire in there somehow cause a voltage drop or make the WSS reading messed up when it was on?
Originally Posted by Rogue
to be honest I would not want to introduce another point of failure to the ABS/TC system.
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Originally Posted by Merlin 91/97
Originally Posted by swartlkk
Would putting that much wire in there somehow cause a voltage drop or make the WSS reading messed up when it was on?
Originally Posted by Rogue
to be honest I would not want to introduce another point of failure to the ABS/TC system.
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Originally Posted by Mechanic
I'm going through the wiring diagrams for brake and traction control and
keep seeing wiring for "magnasteer"Does this boat use steering inputs as
well as wheel speed??Is magnasteer an option??If we disable brake and trac
control do we lose some steering control??
keep seeing wiring for "magnasteer"Does this boat use steering inputs as
well as wheel speed??Is magnasteer an option??If we disable brake and trac
control do we lose some steering control??
Originally Posted by Mechanic
OK, so in Toyota speak and every other part of the world "variable
pressure speed sensitive steering " is called what it is.In GM speak it,*
called "Magnasteer" So if we disable trac/brake control we will also
disable the variable assist feature.Not a big deal in a straight line but
I caution some practice driving in this mode as the car will behave
differently.
pressure speed sensitive steering " is called what it is.In GM speak it,*
called "Magnasteer" So if we disable trac/brake control we will also
disable the variable assist feature.Not a big deal in a straight line but
I caution some practice driving in this mode as the car will behave
differently.
Will disabling the brake and tc, thus disabling magnasteer be critical?
Or does disabling the WSS kill the magnasteer anyways?
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Originally Posted by Merlin 91/97
Originally Posted by Mechanic
I'm going through the wiring diagrams for brake and traction control and
keep seeing wiring for "magnasteer"Does this boat use steering inputs as
well as wheel speed??Is magnasteer an option??If we disable brake and trac
control do we lose some steering control??
keep seeing wiring for "magnasteer"Does this boat use steering inputs as
well as wheel speed??Is magnasteer an option??If we disable brake and trac
control do we lose some steering control??
Originally Posted by Mechanic
OK, so in Toyota speak and every other part of the world "variable
pressure speed sensitive steering " is called what it is.In GM speak it,*
called "Magnasteer" So if we disable trac/brake control we will also
disable the variable assist feature.Not a big deal in a straight line but
I caution some practice driving in this mode as the car will behave
differently.
pressure speed sensitive steering " is called what it is.In GM speak it,*
called "Magnasteer" So if we disable trac/brake control we will also
disable the variable assist feature.Not a big deal in a straight line but
I caution some practice driving in this mode as the car will behave
differently.
Will disabling the brake and tc, thus disabling magnasteer be critical?
Or does disabling the WSS kill the magnasteer anyways?