Well I have to put a gasket on it, That leak is getting to be annoying. I figured since its out...

OK, my mission begins now, i'm gonna drill two holes, maybe three, after testing it just to be sure.

then the 180 goes back in with a seal & gasket, hopefully stopping the leak, fill up the system and start her up on jack stands...we don't have ramps

OK I did it guys...

Removed the thermostat, and checked it, it seemed like it actually opened at 190* :? but the thermometer was touching the metal strainer that was in the pot so maybe the metal was hotter than the water. It was cool to see it open up though, kinda cool how it just opens like that.

anyway, that checked out i went and drilled two holes opposite each other, ones an 1/8" and the other is 9/64" i used the 1/8" first and it was dull as crap so I moved up to 9/64" after that. BillBoost PM'd me to tell me he had to swap his out in the winter because it took a long time to warm up in the winter, but he was too late, holes drilled, i'll just be after another 180* when winter comes back around.

anyway, I reinstalled the stuff, put the gasket on (and as far as i can tell the leak is solved). I jecked the car up while it was getting up to temperature (which did take a long time) and it sat like that for about an hour running with the drivers side front end up in the air. It got to 180-185 on the temp gauge and stayed. I had a thermometer in the radiator cap that showed 140* the whole time. So it had run like that for an hour at 180* outside in 94* weather. So i droped it down and went around the block, then up to the 7-11 (3 miles away) and came back. Temps went up to 210* :( . I later went to the track and temps stayed at 200-210*. So shes not as hot as she has been but still running over. I talked to pat while I was at the track (called him for another reason (tricking the ELC)) and he suggested doing the High speed fan override, maybe it'll help but we'll see.

*sigh*

The temps you see...are they cruising temps or standing still temps? Your car will get over 180 sitting still... you have no air circulating through your radiator.

I agree with Don, myself and Bill noticed this on my 95. the gauge was saying about 150 and it was 181. But when the gauge was at around 180 it was still 180 (according to the scan tool)

If you are still leaking, then you are not building up pressure. Pressure is what raises the boiling point of your coolant. If your coolant boils, it produces air bubbles and will overheat.
It is likely that the temperature of the coolant is much higher near the top of the engine than it is where your coolant temperature sensor is located. I know this is a fact from taking IR temp readings at various locations around the engine and comparing them to the actual gauge reading.

Fix the leak first, then bleed the air after the engine is up to full temp, using the bleeder screw on top of the thermostat housing. That is the highest point where the air will accumulate. Do as others have said and position the engine (jacks) to ensure the air bubble is at the highest point where you are bleeding it.

Good luck.

It mostly tends to get hot sitting, but also will get hot when on the move.

I dont have a scantool and therfore have not put one to the car.

I did fix the leak though.

I loosened the screw cap on he top of the thermostat, front end wasn't jacked up but it was about 8-12 inches higher in the front due to my grandparents driveway....i only got coolant all over the trans :? , I'll see tomorrow weather I can keep her under 200*. She has been good this past week, staying below 210* so we're getting somewhere.

I also found something else that worries me, once i post the thread i'll link it to here, i really doubt its related but...

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...=933318#933318

ok, well problem solved, I went home friday around 4:00, it was 95* outside and got in traffic...and she barley got over 200*

thanks for the help guys...

and I dont recal ever posting these, but heres when I drilled it and reinstalled it: