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06-29-2007, 04:04 PM
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so do you think if i change to a fwi, add the 180 t-stat add high flow cat/ mufflers with the fact i have no Kr and good timing and running 93 octane, i could go with a 3.4 pulley?
06-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by 91buickman
it really dosent matter about brands for pulley'* but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the people who make good products if you catch my drift. as far as the timing issue the PCM will back that down anyway after you get pullied i dont see it as a issue unless it keeps getting 24degrees then id worry.
To the topic author:
Buy the MPS system from the vendor you want to continue to do business with (for later replacement sizes).
Going to a 3.4 could cause you to need other mods. Just be aware of that. And it goes without saying that you should always run 91 octane minimum. More if you can get it when you start to pulley down or increase compression.
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91buickman wrote:
but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the people who make good products if you catch my drift.
I don't catch the drift at all and in fact I take a pretty big offense to this statement.
There is usually a reason that a company has a big following or is recommended to other people. I'm not sure making good stuff but not good product is a valid (or even comprehensible) reason to dispute that.
Sorry to hijack but....
No need to take offense to what i was syaing i will be open with my opinion to
everyone which is that Intense makes really great products----but not the only vendor
worth taking a look at. researching diffrent vendors products will give you the best
overall knowledge of what to buy and from who you want to buy from. That is not a
flame or dis to any company by anymeans nor was i trying to offend anybodies
personal choices on what they buy/bought. i can see where you took offense to what i
was saying because i left out a word. I ment to say Intense arent the only people that
Make good products to buy.
06-29-2007, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lammers
oh yeah and the timing was at 24 at WOT higher when not at wot, as i read in another thread that is headgasket raosting territory, so please advise on that as well.
I think it'* been hinted at in this thread, but it should be noted not to confuse TIMING with KR which maybe looks to be what you're doing (pardon me if I'm wrong about that, but I want to make it clear for everyone). 24* of KR would be engine roasting territory; headgaskets would be one of the last things to go on the 3800 though.
06-30-2007, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 91buickman
Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by 91buickman
it really dosent matter about brands for pulley'* but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the people who make good products if you catch my drift. as far as the timing issue the PCM will back that down anyway after you get pullied i dont see it as a issue unless it keeps getting 24degrees then id worry.
To the topic author:
Buy the MPS system from the vendor you want to continue to do business with (for later replacement sizes).
Going to a 3.4 could cause you to need other mods. Just be aware of that. And it goes without saying that you should always run 91 octane minimum. More if you can get it when you start to pulley down or increase compression.
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91buickman wrote:
but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the people who make good products if you catch my drift.
I don't catch the drift at all and in fact I take a pretty big offense to this statement.
There is usually a reason that a company has a big following or is recommended to other people. I'm not sure making good stuff but not good product is a valid (or even comprehensible) reason to dispute that.
Sorry to hijack but....
No need to take offense to what i was syaing i will be open with my opinion to
everyone which is that Intense makes really great products----but not the only vendor
worth taking a look at. researching diffrent vendors products will give you the best
overall knowledge of what to buy and from who you want to buy from. That is not a
flame or dis to any company by anymeans nor was i trying to offend anybodies
personal choices on what they buy/bought. i can see where you took offense to what i
was saying because i left out a word. I ment to say Intense arent the only people that
Make good products to buy.
06-30-2007, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dillcc
Originally Posted by lammers
oh yeah and the timing was at 24 at WOT and about 19 with mild aceleration , as i read in another thread that is headgasket raosting territory, so please advise on that as well.
I think it'* been hinted at in this thread, but it should be noted not to confuse TIMING with KR which maybe looks to be what you're doing (pardon me if I'm wrong about that, but I want to make it clear for everyone). 24* of KR would be engine roasting territory; headgaskets would be one of the last things to go on the 3800 though.
My car makes 25 more wheel horsepower by adding 5 degrees of timing which I can do safely by adding race gas. In fact, the sweet spot in timing for these cars is about 24 although that is head gasket roasting territory especially without an intercooler. 18-20 is a great place to be on a street car and doing whatever mods to your car to allow you to run 18-20 degrees of timing on pump gas (93-94 octane) should be the goal to make good safe power even it means running larger pulleys.
this is the section and post that i am referring to.[/url]