An interesting Throttle Body story
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Originally Posted by willwren
Interesting side note here. I just noticed that the o-ring for my nozzle is missing. I had the nozzle inside the filter pointing back up the pipe on a custom bracket. The airflow apparently sucked the ring off the nozzle, and the motor ate it.
It is amazing how much effort you put into everything on these cars. Care and dedication is an understatement. More pics of the water Nozzle and where you drilled into please.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Interesting side note here. I just noticed that the o-ring for my nozzle is missing. I had the nozzle inside the filter pointing back up the pipe on a custom bracket. The airflow apparently sucked the ring off the nozzle, and the motor ate it.
It is amazing how much effort you put into everything on these cars. Care and dedication is an understatement. More pics of the water Nozzle and where you drilled into please.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Only the one on the 93 is still in stock form (95 TB), but that won't be for long. It'll go stock back on the SLE, and the ported one will go on it.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by OLDsman105
Originally Posted by willwren
Interesting side note here. I just noticed that the o-ring for my nozzle is missing. I had the nozzle inside the filter pointing back up the pipe on a custom bracket. The airflow apparently sucked the ring off the nozzle, and the motor ate it.
It is amazing how much effort you put into everything on these cars. Care and dedication is an understatement. More pics of the water Nozzle and where you drilled into please.
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The 95 is staying stock.
As far as injection location is concerned, there are advantages and disadvantages to every location you can think of. I injected in the entrance to the intake tube out of convenience. There is no risk of damaging the MAF sensor. It does muck a bit with the MAF readings though. It thinks there'* alot more air than there really is.
The other option if you don't want to modify your TB is to have a TB spacer machined. All you have to do is take your TB gasket to a machinist and tell him to make you one 1/2" thick. The gasket is the perfect profile to copy.
As far as injection location is concerned, there are advantages and disadvantages to every location you can think of. I injected in the entrance to the intake tube out of convenience. There is no risk of damaging the MAF sensor. It does muck a bit with the MAF readings though. It thinks there'* alot more air than there really is.
The other option if you don't want to modify your TB is to have a TB spacer machined. All you have to do is take your TB gasket to a machinist and tell him to make you one 1/2" thick. The gasket is the perfect profile to copy.
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Originally Posted by willwren
The 95 is staying stock.
The other option if you don't want to modify your TB is to have a TB spacer machined. All you have to do is take your TB gasket to a machinist and tell him to make you one 1/2" thick. The gasket is the perfect profile to copy.
The other option if you don't want to modify your TB is to have a TB spacer machined. All you have to do is take your TB gasket to a machinist and tell him to make you one 1/2" thick. The gasket is the perfect profile to copy.
That sounds like an even better soultion thank you .
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He bought a TB spacer.
But modifying the TB in the long run is cheaper than fab'ing the spacer from scratch (nobody makes one for either S1 Gen), and it gives you the opportunity to shave the TB shaft like I've been doing. I've done 5 throttle bodies for 3800'* to date.
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Originally Posted by willwren
The 95 is staying stock.
Are there any disadvantages/risks to using a ported/polished TB? What advantages (if any) are there to using an altered TB on an otherwise "stock" Bonneville/H-body? Does an altered TB require supporting mods? Is gas mileage worse?
....inquiring minds want to know.
I guess I am trying to clarify the postives/negatives for those that may be thinking about doing any TB alterations on there cars.
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Originally Posted by Echo SSEI
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The 95 is staying stock.
Are there any disadvantages/risks to using a ported/polished TB? What advantages (if any) are there to using an altered TB on an otherwise "stock" Bonneville/H-body? Does an altered TB require supporting mods? Is gas mileage worse?
....inquiring minds want to know.
I guess I am trying to clarify the postives/negatives for those that may be thinking about doing any TB alterations on there cars.
For you, it'll give you a tad more power at WOT (whether you'll feel it or not is a good question that will be answered soon by another 97SSEi), and a little more snappy throttle response (talking about shaving the shaft here). As far as the polishing is concerned, it just 'optimizes' the flow of the TB to it'* greatest potential. Smoother airflow, less heat. Yes, the TB actually gets hot from the friction of the incoming air if you can believe it. In fact, under boost, the hottest surface of the SC itself is the inner diameter of the SC inlet itself. All that air is scrambling to get somewhere in a hurry. The bore of the TB would be similar.
Again, I'll point out that no material should be removed from the circumference of the TB bore where the throttle plate (butterfly) rests at idle. A very fine polish in that area only.