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That'* okay, i was just wondering. What'* intense'* turnaround time. If i can, I might try to ship the PCM out overnight on a monday, but how long do you think til i could get it back?
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Contact them and ask.
Or go to a wrecker, get a core, and send that in instead. That way you retain your stock PCM as a spare if you need it, or choose to send the INTENSE unit back for more customized programming later.
Off to the wrecker you go......
Or go to a wrecker, get a core, and send that in instead. That way you retain your stock PCM as a spare if you need it, or choose to send the INTENSE unit back for more customized programming later.
Off to the wrecker you go......
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Thats not a bad idea.
Just for referance, any idea how much a CASE learn costs, and how long it takes?
exactly what does the case learn do?
Just for referance, any idea how much a CASE learn costs, and how long it takes?
exactly what does the case learn do?
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Post your location. Someone nearby may be able to help you with direct intervention or local sources. And someone with a S2 and better knowledge can answer that better than I can.
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I'm located in Darien, IL usually, but go to school in West Lafayette, IN. I'm not sure where I'll be doing the PCM swap though.
I emailed todd, and asked if a one week turnaround is possible.
Is it also true that the FWI will add a nice exhaust note, along with the MPG'* willwren mentioned?
Thanks for all your help guys. I feel like such a noobie.
I emailed todd, and asked if a one week turnaround is possible.
Is it also true that the FWI will add a nice exhaust note, along with the MPG'* willwren mentioned?
Thanks for all your help guys. I feel like such a noobie.
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Originally Posted by lewis26
Is it also true that the FWI will add a nice exhaust note, along with the MPG'* willwren mentioned?
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A CASE Learn Procedure is done when:
1. PCM is changed (not required if the same pcm is put back in and the engine has not been cranked since removal)
2. Crank Position Sensor is changed
3. Engine is swapped
It'* purpose:
To sync the PCM with the crank sensor, the cam sensor, for proper timing, and fueling.
Like Ed (McGrath) said, it will create a very nice deep growl from the intake. For MPG'*, technically you'd expect it to increase, but side-by-side runs on my parents Park Avenue Ultra'* (2002 with FWI and 2004 with gutted air box and K&N panel filter) showed that the mpg favorite switched back and forth almost every 10-15 seconds. They were basically identical on the instant MPG readings at 60, 65, 70 and 75 mph. They typically varied by .1-.2 mpg and that number jumped back and forth between the two about the point you'd start to favor one then the other one would jump in the lead.
1. PCM is changed (not required if the same pcm is put back in and the engine has not been cranked since removal)
2. Crank Position Sensor is changed
3. Engine is swapped
It'* purpose:
To sync the PCM with the crank sensor, the cam sensor, for proper timing, and fueling.
Like Ed (McGrath) said, it will create a very nice deep growl from the intake. For MPG'*, technically you'd expect it to increase, but side-by-side runs on my parents Park Avenue Ultra'* (2002 with FWI and 2004 with gutted air box and K&N panel filter) showed that the mpg favorite switched back and forth almost every 10-15 seconds. They were basically identical on the instant MPG readings at 60, 65, 70 and 75 mph. They typically varied by .1-.2 mpg and that number jumped back and forth between the two about the point you'd start to favor one then the other one would jump in the lead.
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Any idea of the usual cost, along with the time it takes to do? could i go to a dealer and get it done while i sit there?
Also, if i order a new PCM, do i have to wait til i get to the dealer to install it?
Also, if i order a new PCM, do i have to wait til i get to the dealer to install it?
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Originally Posted by lewis26
Any idea of the usual cost, along with the time it takes to do? could i go to a dealer and get it done while i sit there?
Also, if i order a new PCM, do i have to wait til i get to the dealer to install it?
Also, if i order a new PCM, do i have to wait til i get to the dealer to install it?
The PCM is very easy to replace. Just disconnect the positive battery terminal, and take the airbox apart. It'* a very straight forward procedure and once you have access to the PCM you will need a small wratchet and socket to unbolt the connectors.
Reverse pattern for installation. If buying in conjunction with the Intense FWI it is even easier to install the pcm (as far as reassembly, and the Intense FWI is a breeze also.
If you insist on a dealer installing, I am not sure if they will install aftermarket parts that would void the warranty (if any). If they do install them, it should take them a total of 1/2 hour, but they will probably charge you for a full hour or more, depending on how bad they want to gouge you. $-wise I'd say around $100+CASE Learn procedure (another $15-100).
I'd suggest joining up on www.3800pro.com and your local Grand Prix website(*) -you'll definitely find someone willing to do the install for dirt cheap (if any charge).
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If you get a standard PCM from INTENSE, you do not have to run premium. You have a L36 so it will perform just fine on 87.
I have asked Todd from INTENSE personally about that and he said "unless you change your timing, 87 is just fine"
and that'* what I run with my INTENSE PCM and I love it!
I have asked Todd from INTENSE personally about that and he said "unless you change your timing, 87 is just fine"
and that'* what I run with my INTENSE PCM and I love it!