Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning Talk about modifications, or anything else associated with performance enhancements. Have a new idea for performance/reliability? Post it here. No idea is stupid! (please use Detailing and Appearance for cosmetic ideas)

Ram air done, complete, tested. Lots of pics (not 56k)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-20-2004, 09:24 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
willwren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default Ram air done, complete, tested. Lots of pics (not 56k)

I finsished my ram-air. Many of you already know the setup, but to refresh, the duct on the driver'* side feeds the CAI, and the duct on the passenger side cools the SC and throttle body. Some basic assembly photos:













Mounted on the drivers side:


Katie and I took the car out to test today (Pooky is in CA at cheerleading nationals). Did 6 runs total. First 3 were with both ducts plugged in the engine bay (outlet ends) with clean rags, and tape to hold them in against any pressure. 3 different speeds (30mph, 45mph, 60mph) recording outside air temp, IAT temp, and SC temp (taken just under the mesh at the top of the SC next to the TB). We taped this thermometer (Fluke) to the windshield so we could see it, and took IAT measurements from the Actron scantool. Ambient air temp was taken from the Climate control.

We then stopped the car to unplug the ducts. Funny, the pressure at the scoops built up to the point that it popped the air hoses off the scoops under the car. This answered the pressure/flow question for me. We got back in and ran the same test at the same speeds, recording the same temps. Keep in mind, this was after full heat saturation of the engine/trans.

Our data:

ducts plugged (no ram air)
Speed----------Air temp-----------IAT temp------------SC temp
30-----------------58--------------------92--------------------93
45-----------------59--------------------95--------------------91.6
60-----------------60--------------------90--------------------81.2

ducts unplugged (ram air flowing)
Speed----------Air temp-----------IAT temp------------SC temp
30-----------------61--------------------86--------------------81
45-----------------61--------------------72--------------------80
60-----------------61--------------------70--------------------70

As you can see, it made quite a difference. I'm basically running both ducts at 10° above ambient temps, with a 10-20° reduction in temps across the board.

We then speed-tested the mounting up to 115mph, with no problems. The sprayed on bedliner coating is tough. Not a chip or ding, but we did have dead bug guts inside the scoops, and a dead wasp in the SC cover mesh

Some testing pics:














And the finished pics:

















This was a major success as far as I'm concerned. Works great, very little cost, and looks ok. The only thing I might consider changing is the type of scoops, and adding some kind of heat extraction.
willwren is offline  
Old 03-20-2004, 09:28 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Twister97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Twister97 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thats awesome! Great job looks very great and professional. I might play around and try something like that.
Twister97 is offline  
Old 03-20-2004, 09:33 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
willwren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Love the river That'* where we ended up at the end of the testing. Thought it would be a great backdrop.
willwren is offline  
Old 03-20-2004, 10:27 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
willwren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

The old retired couple I got it from did that. I've only scraped once. I will have to park back a bit when parking up to a curb, block, or planter box. They are about 1/2" lower than the black deflector.
willwren is offline  
Old 03-20-2004, 11:51 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
BonneMeMN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,928
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
BonneMeMN is on a distinguished road
Default

I'll be looking for a slightly more hidden approach to it Maybe slightly further back collection, and i'm not doing it till i find what I want for scoops.

Nice work though, but maybe some sort of mesh to strain bugs out to keep the engine clean may help some? I think the velocity isn't as important as the temp of the air coming in.
BonneMeMN is offline  
Old 03-21-2004, 01:05 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Posts like a Northstar
 
Bassplayincrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Western, Mass
Posts: 587
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bassplayincrowe is on a distinguished road
Default

I wanna see the performance benefits fromt the air going to the CAI
Bassplayincrowe is offline  
Old 03-21-2004, 05:56 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
GAMEOVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Racine Wi
Posts: 5,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
GAMEOVER is on a distinguished road
Default

its looks neat with the scoops under the front regardless if you lowered the temps 1 degree it was a sucesss good job will we something different to work with instead of the maytag ram air set-up
GAMEOVER is offline  
Old 03-21-2004, 10:58 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
willwren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by Bassplayincrowe
I wanna see the performance benefits fromt the air going to the CAI
Somebody posted a link somewhere awhile back that said every 5 or 10 degrees (I forget which) reduction in intake air temp results in one HP. Since I'm drawing 20 degree colder air at the filter now, AND knocking some heat off the SC and TB (more data to collect there, btw), I'm guessing I gained less than 5hp, but it'* worth it for me because of the low cost. Especially cooling that SC. With the raised redline on the Jet, and the smaller pulley on the Eaton, it'* spinning at an ungodly rate at WOT. Any cooling I can provide gives me peace of mind to go along with the 3-5 hp gain.

Shawn or Bullet, do you guys remember that post about temp vs. hp?
willwren is offline  


Quick Reply: Ram air done, complete, tested. Lots of pics (not 56k)



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:52 AM.