Firming up the turns etc
08-16-2006, 12:28 AM
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Firming up the turns etc
ok tonight i took a turn off the freeway and crossed the opposite lanes of traffic to get to the street i was goin to...ANYWAYS...i took the turn at maybe 45 around there and this is a 90 degree turn...so it was a tight one...anyways, this is one of the reasons I love Bonnevilles is because they really hold their ground and usually take most what you throw at them. Now tonight, all 4 tires were howling/screechin. Anyways...my point here...Now in order to hold ground a little better and keep her a little more stabilized than she felt tonight, I have the following ideas in mind...
To hold ground better, obviously put some wider tires on, but I already know what size im just waiting for money and for these to wear out..
to keep more stabilized...
ok if i took the FE2 suspension system from another car would i have to install the springs with the sway bars and the STB? All I really want to know is, are the springs a big part of it? or can I just get away with everything BUT them. I dunno...help..
To hold ground better, obviously put some wider tires on, but I already know what size im just waiting for money and for these to wear out..
to keep more stabilized...
ok if i took the FE2 suspension system from another car would i have to install the springs with the sway bars and the STB? All I really want to know is, are the springs a big part of it? or can I just get away with everything BUT them. I dunno...help..
08-16-2006, 01:30 AM
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Engery Suspension ANYTHING is the best to use
i am a new beliver in that.
i am a new beliver in that.
08-16-2006, 10:18 AM
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you can do a full FE2 setup, with the Energy suspension endlinks.....and a STB bar will help you....also at the same time do struts...coming from old FE1 and struts to FE2 and new struts is like an unbelievable difference
08-16-2006, 11:31 AM
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Changing the rear struts to air (manual, not ELC) like jr's3800 did on his 95 will work wonders for you.
My suggestion would be for the first step, do the Monroe rear air assist struts (run them about 20psi or so) to firm up the rear, put on a 92-99 STB on the front, and do the endlinks. Any of these 3 items will be PROFOUND in handling response improvement. And all 3 can be done for about $200. Then if you aren't satisfied, we can help find some FE2 components (much more involved in finding and installing).
The point is that you need to improve the handling, but also must maintain 'balance' between the front and rear.
My suggestion would be for the first step, do the Monroe rear air assist struts (run them about 20psi or so) to firm up the rear, put on a 92-99 STB on the front, and do the endlinks. Any of these 3 items will be PROFOUND in handling response improvement. And all 3 can be done for about $200. Then if you aren't satisfied, we can help find some FE2 components (much more involved in finding and installing).
The point is that you need to improve the handling, but also must maintain 'balance' between the front and rear.
08-16-2006, 11:47 AM
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What size tire are you looking at?
Wider is better to a point, after that wider can cause problems.
Compound, tread design and tire body design are more important than width.
Pay heed to Bill'* comment on balance. Front to rear handling balance is one of the most important aspects of suspension tuning.
Wider is better to a point, after that wider can cause problems.
Compound, tread design and tire body design are more important than width.
Pay heed to Bill'* comment on balance. Front to rear handling balance is one of the most important aspects of suspension tuning.
08-16-2006, 03:13 PM
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Everyone please also remember that the 89 used a diffrent front strut/spring set up than a 91-92.... 90 seemed to be a confusing year as there were some changes...
Being that his car should be an FE1 it could have a 28mm or 30mm front sway bar... 30 would be perferred for bone stock, the rear may have an 14mm bar or on a couple of occasions I have head of none at all...
At the least check to see if the you have the 30mm up front, in the rear install an 18mm rear sway, using the energy suspension end links all around... On the rear do like I did and install a set of Monroe Air struts... With the new front struts you already have, this will make a diffrence?
Also i don't remember if you have a Strut Tower Bar or not yet? This too will reduce the amount of flex on the front end... Everything helps
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Being that his car should be an FE1 it could have a 28mm or 30mm front sway bar... 30 would be perferred for bone stock, the rear may have an 14mm bar or on a couple of occasions I have head of none at all...
At the least check to see if the you have the 30mm up front, in the rear install an 18mm rear sway, using the energy suspension end links all around... On the rear do like I did and install a set of Monroe Air struts... With the new front struts you already have, this will make a diffrence?
Also i don't remember if you have a Strut Tower Bar or not yet? This too will reduce the amount of flex on the front end... Everything helps
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08-16-2006, 04:15 PM
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I'm not hijacking, but merely thinking of other possibilites for him to do.
He mentioned that he was getting new tires. I wonder if he got a inch larger front wheels than the rear, would that help the handling? The GP GXP has that set up and it seems to help improve its handling. Also optimal rubber helps too.
Also, it would help if you slowed down a bit....
He mentioned that he was getting new tires. I wonder if he got a inch larger front wheels than the rear, would that help the handling? The GP GXP has that set up and it seems to help improve its handling. Also optimal rubber helps too.
Also, it would help if you slowed down a bit....
08-16-2006, 04:49 PM
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Shorter sidewalls will help turn in response but may not make much difference with ultimate grip.
It is preferable to keep the same size front and rear. Staggered setups can't be rotated. Tire rotation becomes more important to tire life as you go up in performance level.
It is preferable to keep the same size front and rear. Staggered setups can't be rotated. Tire rotation becomes more important to tire life as you go up in performance level.