Originally Posted by chadow427
You takin' aim at your dad'* GTP??
Well, yes and no. I'm not really trying to "beat" it, but my goal in the end is to run as well as its current PB.
Here is the thing about that car. That car is a LOADED '02 GTP. It is a 4 door car with a sunroof and has every option. Even if he completely gutted it, he would still be 100lbs. heavier than my car due to the fact that its a 4 door with a sunroof and I'm a 2 door with no sunroof. His car is a 40th anniversary so it has the roof fences, the bigger rear spoiler, and hood scoops. His car has HUD, magnasteer, onstar, and I'm sure some other things I can't think of right now, mine has none of that. He also has BMR front and rear sway bars which are the heaviest bars made for the w-bodies....mine is stock. He has stb'*, I don't. He has gmpp trailing arms, I don't. He has a full stainless steel exhaust with resonator and whatnot, I have a stock catback with the resonator cut out. Honestly, in street trim I think his car is probably a SOLID 300lbs. heavier.
Even if I do go as fast as that car, my car is nowhere near as nice, and his is WAY heavier. His car with a halfway decent tune and halfway decent driver should be capable of mid 11'* with some weight reduction. (IMO 11.6'* are FAR from unreasonable)
Now when you compare basic mods, our large mods are very similar however there are a TON of small mods that he has that I don't. I'll list both our mod lists so you can compare.
My mods: (after I/C and headers)
Open K&N filter
Pacesetter headers, downpipe, and stock catback with res delete
drilled 160 tstat
UD alt & wp pulleys
XP cam, 90lb. springs, retainers
HumPerformance Ported M90 (stock inlet, just reworked outlet) and Machined Intake
ZZP Full Size I/C, regular core, Radiator 2, rule pump
ZZP MPS (older heavier hub)
Autolite 103 plugs
Not sure, but probably 2.8/2.9/3.0 pulleys.
L36 bottom end (9.4:1 compression)
My car also has stock GT 3.29 gears and 3000 stall convertor.
Insulated Thrasher CAI
ZZP Stage 2 Throttle Body
ZZP Stage 4 Ported M90 w/machined snout
ZZP Full Size I/C, half plastic core, radiator 2, gm pump, steel lines
ZZP Machined Intake
PRJ Fuel Rails
XP cam, 90lb. springs, retainers, OR pushrods
Ceramic & Titanium Coated TOG'*
RT downipe w/no cat
Autolite 103 plugs
MSD plug wires
ZZP Electric Water Pump
drilled 160 tstat
10% Alt. UD Pulley
8 rib belt setup
ZZP Transmission, input shaft, output shaft, pump shaft, 3.29 gears, diff squirter, etc...
ZZP 2500 stall convertor
Grand Am front brakes
cross drilled/slotted rotors all the way around
Custom DHP PCM
Stock L67 bottom end (8.5:1 compression)
So in reality, his setup should be a lot stronger than mine. His blower should be way better. His electric water pump should definately help. His brakes should be a bit lighter. His exhaust setup is way nicer (has nothing to do with performance but his looks and sounds 10x better than mine), and his throttle body is also much better. He also has 42.5lb. injectors, which not having those on my setup will probably hold me back.
Performance wise I'm hoping to run close to what his current PB is, but as you can see his setup should be much stronger than mine as far as reliability goes, and for a daily driver his should be better IMO. His car is way nicer in just about every way, and I'd definately rather have his instead of mine. But, like I said, performance wise, with mine tuned well and his full weight it should be close.
Honestly I don't see me going 11'* without some weight reduction and a lot of tweaking. That is my goal for next year though.