It has some cool features from what my brother showed me. And I'm sure it will or does have more drivers than XP came with. But he had the retail version before it was released, so a lot of the drivers were still only beta versions at the time he was showing me stuff.

http://www.radarsync.com/vista/


this site has a ton of free drivers on it, they may be able to help you out

IMO, its a complete knockoff of OSX.. but i dont really have a problem with that

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...g/16555680.htm

def worth the watch -----> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/press/pog...*-x-224076.php

here'* my answer - I don't want to pay what Apple'* proprietary ways makes their machines cost, and I don't want to have learn a brand new OS. I personally didn't like Vista, but I have tried using OS X. Vista was enough like previous Windows versions that I could jump right in and go. The Mac OS is a different animal all together. Some of us are stubborn enough that the whole "Since it looks like a Mac, why don't you just buy a Mac?" theory just don't work.

Plus, the whole "XP requires a brand new computer anyway" is BS. It might require a brand new system for everything to work. But, just like any other Windows install, you can just leave stuff out, or turn stuff off if it causes issues.

Not that it matters. I'll be sticking with XP for a while. Vista is just too pricey. And I have come to enjoy running a non-pirated OS....

i agree with you mos, and thats how its gotta be for most users... however i work on an OSX machine 8 hours a day, so i am very familiar with it, and can switch from mac to windows effortlessly when i get home to my XP machine...

My only gripe with Apple is that if you want serious performance in a system, you have to pay big bucks for it. For $1000, you can have a pretty powerful PC, which would otherwise cost twice as much for an equivalent Apple system.

As for the OS, I work in corporate IT, which uses Windows. I know it inside and out. OS/X is really cool, but I have found no use for it yet. I want to learn it more, but cannot afford it. Also IMO, both of the OS'* are just as reliable as its counterpart. User error plays a big factor in why people think MS products are unstable.

It'* nice to hear that someone else feels that way. I have never considered Windows 95, 98, or XP especially "unstable." If you're an average high-schooler or college student that doesn't understand anything about computers, you'll find some way to screw up your PC. But if you have an idea what you're doing within Windows it won't just crash or die out of the blue. Not in my experience, anyway.

And as far as Vista is concerned, I'll probably wait to buy it when I get rid of my current machine somewhere down the road. XP works fine for now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Chinski that comic is awesome!

Vista is a knock-off of OS X because MS realizes what Apple is doing right & better. I think it'* probably a PITA for most people since 85% of computers won't run Vista, if they want it but don't have the money to get a new computer.

I use OS X at work and at home, as well as Windows XP on my PC. I can switch back and forth seamlessly as well. OS X is easy to use, so it'* not hard to learn it. It'* designed to be easy to use.

I DO understand though that those who use PCs their whole life will not find swicthing OSs is completely easy. Most "PC guys" I know know nothing about Macs. A lot of them just jump on the anti-Mac bandwagon though for no real reason.

But 50% of people who bought Macs last year never used a Mac before.

i had mac osx86 running on the same machine i just put vista on...mac really is nice system and its really easy to work with but i know more about Windows than Mac or Linux so it seems that windows is where i'll stay. One day i'll get a mac machine and build a really good Linux box, then i'll have fun with all 3


james

FYI, you can use the Upgrade version without having an version of Windows installed.
http://www.dailytech.com/Workaround+...rticle5932.htm