Originally Posted by 99BonnevilleSE
Please, show me a Bonneville that weighs 3700 lbs with 300HP run 13'*.... And the Series II engines shift at 6000 stock and can be computer adjusted to shift all the way up to 6900 without a problem. You have the older engine. Your car redlines low. The Series II can spin fast w/o a problem. I am aware of the sqare bore/stroke is the stroke is 3.8 and the bore is 3.4 from the top of my head. A SHO engine is a 3.0L and only makes power way up high so do Honda engines, that'* the only way you can make 240HP out of a S2000. The cars you listed before when you first joined the board were pretty much all V8'*. These V6'* are a little different and the Series I and Series II engines are completely different.
I have never played with a Series II, conceeded. I don't know how they're setup. The cars I've played with that have 3800'* are all "series I" and usually forced induction. My bonneville being the Sole N/A version. And I don't play a "ton" with it. I'm not asking for a 300 horsepower, I'm just saying those are the numbers you need to go that fast and it really isn't as difficult or expensive as y'all make it out to be. Reduce weight, increase horsepower: That'* how you go faster.
On a personal note. ONLY ONE OF THE VEHICLES I'VE EVER BUILT MYSELF WAS A V8!!! I'm WAYYY more creative than that... my SHO was a V6, the MESStang is a Turbo-2.3L SVO engine, and The Turbo-Regals are 3800'*. The only time I've ever really worked with V8 cars was at work, where I repaired Lightning'* and Cobra'* for a local SVT dealership. Oh, and the Ls1 I put into a Olds wagon for a friend of mine. But that'* besides the point.
Apparently you don't do much work on cars....
The SHO engine isn't rice last I checked. It'* made by Yamaha congratulations. It'* a far more technologically advanced, not to mention more powerful than the 3800. 3.0L, DOHC, Hemispherical heads, Generates more average torque than a factory 5.0.
Did I mention that they can be built to 500+ Horsepower? Out of a 3.0L Engine? (If you don't believe me check: http://www.shoshop.com
Rotary engine, yes, but still a revver. And yes, compared to a Honda, the 3800 doesn't rev worth ****. Now, do I prefer those two latter platforms, no. I don't like either. However, discounting how they work and their engineering simply because you dislike them isn't fair. They still hold merit. Disliking a car or brand for a particular reason (hate the person, or people) who drive them is fine. Not recognizing the merit or legitamacy of the engineering is just ignorant.
This discussion seems a bit rediculous to me. I have done nothing other than offer facts about how fast a car should go at a given weight and horsepower. No one here has offered anything than a "shut up that doesn't work" remark. However, no one has done this.
Here'* some (free) Quater mile calculators...
Took me like 5 seconds on Yahoo!. Find one that disagrees. Getting your bonne'* wet weight down to 3700-3800 might be a little difficult but it'* not impossible.
Listen, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but I am pretty much right... if you wanna talk to me about it feel free: