So...you thought the 3800 was dead?
09-11-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BonneMeMN
The 3.5 was not designed to replace any 3800. It'* the cheap (chinese made IIRC) V6 in GM'* stable now. The 3.6 and 3.9 are the more refined versions with features such as VVT, and new designs, and more power. Think of the 3.5 as the base engine, and the 3.6, 3.9, 5.3, etc as the premium engines.
The ride and all have improved over the previous buicks yes, but the non-magnetic suspension is not performance oriented at all. The 3800 S3 has less power then the L36 (200 HP in the Lucerne I had) and the 4 speed tranny isn't competitive inthis group. The Ford 500 probably is abetter choice on many fronts over the new Lucerne.
The ride and all have improved over the previous buicks yes, but the non-magnetic suspension is not performance oriented at all. The 3800 S3 has less power then the L36 (200 HP in the Lucerne I had) and the 4 speed tranny isn't competitive inthis group. The Ford 500 probably is abetter choice on many fronts over the new Lucerne.
09-11-2006, 04:17 PM
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The 3800 Series is being phased out.... I don't think they will be in use any more than another year or 2...... GM decided a long time ago that they were either going to do away with the 60* or the 90*.... Well the 90* got the cut...
Supposedly the 3900 is a redesign and not just a punched out 3400....
I had the Chance to check out a members 3500 and was pretty impressed with it... As well my cousins new Montanna SV6 with have the 3500 in it too... I was hoping to see him get one with a 3900 to move it around...
The 3.5 Twin Cam was not going to be a replacement for the 3800, But at one Point it was going to be the standard engine for the 00+ Bonneville... Later down the road they decided to stick with the 3800... I have said in the past it would have been fun to see an M62- M90 attached to the 3.5 Twin Cam
Then all of the sudden the 3.5 Twin Cam was dropped...
I am interested to see what direction they go in with the 3500-3900 V6'* ... Both of these engines make good power... And I am hopeful that with the newer designs the Lifter chatter and Piston scuff issues have been solved..
as much as I love the 3800 series engines, I have to say they have seen better days and their days are numbered
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Supposedly the 3900 is a redesign and not just a punched out 3400....
I had the Chance to check out a members 3500 and was pretty impressed with it... As well my cousins new Montanna SV6 with have the 3500 in it too... I was hoping to see him get one with a 3900 to move it around...
The 3.5 Twin Cam was not going to be a replacement for the 3800, But at one Point it was going to be the standard engine for the 00+ Bonneville... Later down the road they decided to stick with the 3800... I have said in the past it would have been fun to see an M62- M90 attached to the 3.5 Twin Cam
Then all of the sudden the 3.5 Twin Cam was dropped...I am interested to see what direction they go in with the 3500-3900 V6'* ... Both of these engines make good power... And I am hopeful that with the newer designs the Lifter chatter and Piston scuff issues have been solved..
as much as I love the 3800 series engines, I have to say they have seen better days and their days are numbered
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