Ok -rant time (Al Gores global warming)
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Originally Posted by RangerRover
Just a side note on this: if we were to convert 100% of every bit of grain this country produces right now to bio-desel, we would have about 20% of the oil we need.
Actually, I was thinking of some of the non-grain options...there'* one, the name escapes me (wiregrass?) that produces a fair amount of vegetable oil with little effort of cultivation...in other words, a grass that can be grown on marginal soil, and still produce a yield worth the effort. (I think it is currently used as a soil stabilizing grass in landscaping, embankments, etc.)
We (my employers) would love to try some Bio Diesel just to see how it performs. As an organization that burns 20,000 gallons of diesel per week, all options need to be explored. Problem is, nobody is selling it in our area...the distribution network for any of it needs growing.
I'm not suggesting burning coal as a end solution. (Hey, I'm from Pittsburgh, PA..I remember what passed for "air" in the Mon Valley at the height of steel production.)
Using it buys us time to figure something else out. Even before we can build enough other types of power plants, we can be using the coal we have a century supply of.
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it'* all starting to fall apart (for the global warming crowd)
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10973
the number of scientist who are starting to rethink their earlier views on the subject are growing everyday. manmade global warming will eventually be classified as a religion pretty soon.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10973
the number of scientist who are starting to rethink their earlier views on the subject are growing everyday. manmade global warming will eventually be classified as a religion pretty soon.
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However, not everyone is convinced. Dr. Stephen Garner, with the NOAA'* Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL), says such negative feedback effects are "not very plausible". Reto Ruedy of NASA'* Goddard Institute for Space Studies says greenhouse theory is "200 year old science" and doubts the possibility of dramatic changes to the basic theory.
if that article is correct, id be very curious to know what its impact is on the scientific community -- and id like to see more verification.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3893146.shtml
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/...html?id=332289
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature...ticle10866.htm
September 2006: http://ff.org/centers/csspp/library/...060920_13.html
January 2008:
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com...ast-12-months/
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Scientists are a bunch of buffoons IMO. What one states as fact another dismiss' as wild speculation. What they state as fact one year gets proven completely bunk the next.
Global warming is a epidemic, global warming is bunch of hooey. Either way I don't give a good goddamn about it anymore. As usual there is(might be) a problem and instead of trying to fix or solve it, it is turned into a debate where both sides do there best to belittle and minimize the oppositions argument.
I liken political and social debate to two cages of monkeys slinging poo at each other, it'* us(the public) that always ends up with crap on our faces and are blamed for the problem in the first place and the inability to fix or solve it.
Global warming is a epidemic, global warming is bunch of hooey. Either way I don't give a good goddamn about it anymore. As usual there is(might be) a problem and instead of trying to fix or solve it, it is turned into a debate where both sides do there best to belittle and minimize the oppositions argument.
I liken political and social debate to two cages of monkeys slinging poo at each other, it'* us(the public) that always ends up with crap on our faces and are blamed for the problem in the first place and the inability to fix or solve it.
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I agree with you Seth, if a bunch of wackos want to think they are saving the planet by driving Priuses, then God bless them, go drive'em. But when they start trying to force me to drive one, or tell me how to live, then they have to be put down.
We were put on this earth as stewards. No one who cares throws trash in the ditches. When the logging company cuts down a tree, they plant 2 or 3 to take its place. Driving an suv doesn't make you a bad person either.
But they are trying to force us into 3rd world lifestyles, doing so by taking our money so they can spend it on meaningless/useless/futile programs. They want the money and power. Hypocrites.
We were put on this earth as stewards. No one who cares throws trash in the ditches. When the logging company cuts down a tree, they plant 2 or 3 to take its place. Driving an suv doesn't make you a bad person either.
But they are trying to force us into 3rd world lifestyles, doing so by taking our money so they can spend it on meaningless/useless/futile programs. They want the money and power. Hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by sonoma_zr2
I agree with you Seth, if a bunch of wackos want to think they are saving the planet by driving Priuses, then God bless them, go drive'em. But when they start trying to force me to drive one, or tell me how to live, then they have to be put down.
We were put on this earth as stewards. No one who cares throws trash in the ditches. When the logging company cuts down a tree, they plant 2 or 3 to take its place. Driving an suv doesn't make you a bad person either.
But they are trying to force us into 3rd world lifestyles, doing so by taking our money so they can spend it on meaningless/useless/futile programs. They want the money and power. Hypocrites.
We were put on this earth as stewards. No one who cares throws trash in the ditches. When the logging company cuts down a tree, they plant 2 or 3 to take its place. Driving an suv doesn't make you a bad person either.
But they are trying to force us into 3rd world lifestyles, doing so by taking our money so they can spend it on meaningless/useless/futile programs. They want the money and power. Hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by sonoma_zr2
But they are trying to force us into 3rd world lifestyles, doing so by taking our money so they can spend it on meaningless/useless/futile programs. They want the money and power. Hypocrites.
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