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Old 09-03-2005, 08:45 AM
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Kanye West Rips Bush During NBC Concert
By FRAZIER MOORE, AP Television Writer
3 hours ago


Kanye West performs on ABC'* "Good Morning America" concert ...
NEW YORK - It began, fittingly enough, with jazz from New Orleans natives Harry Connick Jr. and Wynton Marsalis. But "A Concert for Hurricane Relief," a heartfelt and dignified benefit aired on NBC and other networks Friday night, took an unexpected turn thanks to the outspoken rapper Kanye West.

Appearing two-thirds through the program, he claimed "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and said America is set up "to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off as slow as possible."

The show, simulcast from New York on NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and Pax, was aired live to the East Coast, enabling the Grammy-winning rapper'* outburst to go out uncensored.

There was a several-second tape delay, but the person in charge "was instructed to listen for a curse word, and didn't realize (West) had gone off-script," said NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks.

West'* comment about the president was cut from NBC'* West Coast airing, which showed three hours later on tape.

The host was NBC News' Matt Lauer, who invited viewers to contribute to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund by phone or on the Web. Some 18 presenters performed musical numbers or gave information on the tragedy'* huge scope.

Louisiana native Tim McGraw teared up as he told Lauer, "I know the citizens that weren't affected by this directly are gonna stand up and do good things for people." He sang two songs, then became the first of the evening'* stars to sign a Gibson Les Paul Special guitar to be auditioned online.

Faith Hill, a Mississippi native, sang "There Will Come a Time," with the inspiring lyrics, "The darkness will be gone, the weak shall be strong. Hold on to your faith."

New Orleans son Aaron Neville performed Randy Newman'* soulful "Louisiana 1927" with the memorable chorus, "they're trying to wash us away, they're trying to wash us away."

New York governor George Pataki presented the Red Cross with a check for $2.5 million and promised, "This great state will do far more."

"In terms of property damage," said actress Hilary Swank, "the estimate is at least $26 billion in insured losses and perhaps twice that in uninsured losses over a 90,000-square-mile area _ approximately the size of Kansas."

Other speakers included Lindsay Lohan, Eric LaSalle, Glenn Close, Richard Gere, John Goodman and Leonardo DiCaprio.

Comedian Mike Myers was paired with West for a 90-second segment that began with Myers speaking of Katrina'* devastation. Then, to Myers' evident surprise, West began a rant by saying, "I hate the way they portray us in the media. If you see a black family, it says they're looting. See a white family, it says they're looking for food."

While allowing that "the Red Cross is doing everything they can," West _ who delivered an emotional outburst at the American Music Awards after he was snubbed for an award _ declared that government authorities are intentionally dragging their feet on aid to the Gulf Coast. Without getting specific, he added, "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

After he stated, "George Bush doesn't care about black people," the camera cut away to comedian Chris Tucker.

Concluding the hour a few minutes later, Lauer noted that "emotions in this country right now are running very high. Sometimes that emotion is translated into inspiration, sometimes into criticism. We've heard some of that tonight. But it'* still part of the American way of life."

Then the entire ensemble performed "When the Saints Go Marching In."

In a statement, NBC said, "Kanye West departed from the scripted comments that were prepared for him, and his opinions in no way represent the views of the networks.

"It would be most unfortunate," the statement continued, "if the efforts of the artists who participated tonight and the generosity of millions of Americans who are helping those in need are overshadowed by one person'* opinion."

Friday'* program was the first of several TV benefits planned through next weekend.

NBC and the five other major commercial broadcast networks, along with PBS, plan to unite next Friday for a special. The same night, BET will air a benefit. And on Saturday, Sept. 10, the MTV networks will air a special.

Also, most of the MSNBC staff I give credit to as well because they were trying there best to get answer to why it was so slow for our own people to get help and they answers where all different. I did agree with one because the gy said that the streets are flooded and its hard to get around in new orleans but that is just one city, what about the other states that wasnt flooded. The tsunami that hit last year had releif just about the same day it happened. why can we rush to other needs but we have to wait darn near for our own. Sept 11, 2001 they had aid right away. Im done.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:50 AM
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Guy sounds like a little bitch to me
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if i was the president i would give permission to shoot aswell...

people were shooting at rescue helicopters... if people are doing that they should be exterminated.
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Old 09-03-2005, 09:53 AM
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I've been mostly out of the loop this week (due to my own crazy life), but this weekend I have been able to catch up on what'* been going on. Here'* the think I don't get, you blame the president for not caring because of the high percent of African Americans and poor people in the area...but why aren't you blaming the Governer of LA or the Mayor of New Orleans? Sure, they may not hold the power of the president but they do hold power of the localities affected. These two (I believe that one, if not both are African American themselves) seem to spend more time complaining about the help that they aren't getting rather and the power they don't have, rather then using the power they do have.
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:16 AM
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The president does care about everyone. It isn't about black/white/hispanic NOTHING like that. It is about people trying to rescue people and getting shot at. WTF is up with that? I have spent the last few days issuing $$$$ to people (all races) to help them. They were the ones that decided to leave. I spoke with a black man (as HE put it) and he told me that there were several that just didn't take it seriously enough. Other hurricanes were supposed to be bad but they always died down before hitting landfall. It really pisses me off when people complain about what the government ISN't doing to help. THEY did not make those people stay!!! Again, I am saying ALL races. I am glad that the relief efforts are starting up to help.

I am not a racist person- I don't care what color your skin is. I care that if you have a disaster we need to help you. If you decide to stay and ride it out then that is YOUR dumbass for doing so (again whatever race you are- you are a dumbass for doing that!)

The main thing is people need to band together, NOT shoot each other, and let'* rebuild Louisiana and Mississippi. PERIOD!!!

Note; I am sorry if this offends anyone but I am in the middle of trying to help some of the victims and hearing their stories firsthand. I am tired, I've worked hard to make sure they have money and supplies to get by on. I just woke up and read this and it just hit a nerve that is raw from being here. This disaster makes 9/11 seem like a minor fender bender.
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Steve, why are you turning this into a 'black' thing?

Almost 70% of the population of New Orleans is black. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. How do you use helicopters in more numbers when there'* still limited fuel?

This was an unfortunate HORRIFIC natural disaster. Unprecedented. THAT'* why the help is slow getting in there, not because they're black.

Those comments were way out of line, and have branded him for life. George Bush didn't do this any more than you did. There is NO communication because it'* all wiped out. Things will get better, but not until people stop shooting and raping each other.
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:58 AM
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Maybe I am wrong, but...

I think it is our media. The only stuff they show is people stranded on bridges and the people complaining that they have gotten no food or water. Its not really news to show the people that have been given food, water, shelter, etc.

Best analogy, Iraq. They don't show the majority of their nation which is better off. They show the car bombs, the people that still don't have infrastructure, etc.

Help IS there, more help is coming. For obvious reasons, this will take time.
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Originally Posted by Princess Jeanie
...but why aren't you blaming the Governer of LA or the Mayor of New Orleans? Sure, they may not hold the power of the president but they do hold power of the localities affected. These two (I believe that one, if not both are African American themselves) seem to spend more time complaining about the help that they aren't getting rather and the power they don't have, rather then using the power they do have.
Very well put.

If you remember the horrific terroist attack on 9/11, the key factor in mobilization in New York was LEADERSHIP. Rudy took charge and mobilized everyone. Communications were poor there as well, but not to the extent that has happened in NO. NO'* mayor has exihibited no leadership IMO. The faster leadership takes charge, the quicker aid is facilitated.

However, now is not the time to place blame. Now is the time to act. People have lost everything, and no matter what social class they currently belong, they are our countrymen. Disaster is color blind, so isn;t our aid. There have been many things that have contributed to the slow call to arms of aid, but that leaves one very open question for everyone:

What have you done?

The time will come to pick apart the process and people, but it is not now.

I challenge every BC member to do something, no matter how small, to help. I have seen many posts about a BC contribution, but organizing that may take too long (unless it is already in place and I have missed it). Nonetheless, give somewhere, Red Cross, Salvation Army, donate blood, something.

There is always time for politics, life is short, let'* save as many as we can!

Oh yeah, for those firing weapons on rescue authorities, be afraid, be very afraid.
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Louisiana native Tim McGraw teared up as he told Lauer, "I know the citizens that weren't affected by this directly are gonna stand up and do good things for people." He sang two songs, then became the first of the evening'* stars to sign a Gibson Les Paul Special guitar to be auditioned online.
Not to make fun of this, but I would love to see the guitar get a part of the next NBC show...

As far as race is related to this tragedy, like it was said previously, most of the population down there is black. You can really over come that. If you watch the news casts, there are persons of other races down there in the mix as well. The issue as to why there is chaos is that people down there seem to be thinking about the individual, and not as a group. I'm sure if someone at the convention center had the audasity to try and organize themselves, they could have reduced the squalor that they are in by simply coming up with "rules" for people. Plus, the whole effort was hampered by individuals who decided that enough was not being done, and rather than help, they would shoot at those persons who were actually trying to help. This is why there are orders to use necessary force. It is completely unnecessary if it weren't for those individuals who think looting and shooting is the best course of action in this time of crisis. I would blame some of the deaths on those people for hindering the effort.

As for the mayor and governor, They too have been seemingly whining that the government should be there and give them all this money rather than seeking the more immediate efforts of their own state. Yes, they mobilized the Louisiana National guard and some police forces, but those persons took almost as long to get there and into place as the rest of the troop. And they were already in the state.

And looking at the mobilization of the rest of the national guard, I would have to applaude them. Having driven down there from Rochester, NY last year, I know it takes 2 days to get down there, maybe less if you drive all night. Now, think about mobilizing all the people in the guard, getting them to the base, getting the equipment around, loading it, and then heading out to help. Doing all that within 4 days is a great turn around. If I was there, I would be thankful that they got there in 4 days instead of a week.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't support bush in the least, but the mobilization of the National guard and other persons was not delayed. And you can try to make this a black issue, but when it comes down to it, the people there knew where they lived, and had the choice to move if they desired.
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the problem in NO has nothing to do with racial descrimination (sp?). It looks like it partly because of the media, and partly because a lot of African Amercans stayed. Like someone said, NO if 70% African American, you will most likely see more blacks than whites. Dont try to turn every little thing into a race arguement.

Also, alot of people are standing around whining and complaining for help pointing fingers. If I was there, I would try to find a way to start walking to safety. Many people have done that. [/end rant]
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