Originally Posted by Burgundy_Boat
well, they don't understand bombs. they don't understand troops. how about we do something they understand? how about for every 1 of our guys they decide to kill, oh darn, 10 of their guys heads just went rolling, on public television, broadcast to freaking everyone over there. hell, i'm of the oppinion that the video of Nick Burg should have been played on the national news networks so all those damn liberals can see just why we need to be taking care of business over there. too graphic you say, yeah it'* slightly graphic, but you need to see what they are doing to our guys, and no it woln't stop if we pull out, the only way to stop it is to crush them
You know, I agree that we need to do something drastic and I wouldn't mind seeing a few Al-Quaida heads roll, myself.
But, Burgundy, your remark about "showing those damn liberals" what'* happening is way off base.
I happen to BE a liberal, and I know damn good and well what'* going on over there.
I know that this war will end up being worse than Vietnam.
I know that guys in uniform stand out like sore thumbs, compared to ambushers in civvies
I know that using armored vehicles that CANNOT WITHSTAND A SINGLE RPG HIT as convoy escorts is really friggin' stupid, they should have M1'*, not vulnerable Hummers and Strikers.
I know that we are not going to "Win" the war in Iraq, we're just going to pass the problem to Iraqi security forces, who have absolutely no chance of even controlling the situation, and will get slaughtered worse than our boys are now.
The war in Iraq was an unnecessary expenditure of lives, tax-dollars, and valuable time.
Despite Bush'* insistence that Saddam had links to Al-Quaida, no evidence of such has ever come to light, much like the WMD theory.
Saddam did NOT sponsor terrorists, terrorists didn't like him much better than they liked us. There have NEVER been training camps in Iraq, and before Bush sent our boys in, it'* doubtful there was even terrorist-linked activity anywhere in Iraq.
Now, please don't take it that I want us to pull out of Iraq, but unless Bush(or Kerry once he is elected) is willing to throw a lot more resources into this war, WE WILL LOSE.
We will pull out with the terrorist cells that are now in place still strong, we will NOT accomplish Bush'* avowed goal of a stable government in Iraq, and the area will suffer civil wars for decades.
My own personal solution to the beheadings? Find the bastards responsible, DO NOT ARREST THEM, OR IN ANY WAY ALLOW THEM TO SURRENDER, just find them.
And drop a Daisy-Cutter on their a$$es. Screw collateral damage. The people in these countries KNOW exactly who is doing this, and must have a pretty good idea where they are, and if they want to shelter them, they should expect to have 25,000lbs of high-explosive dropped where-ever we find the criminals even if it'* in the middle of a major city.
Please, don't make broad statements about "Liberals", remember that there are just as many Republicans speaking out against the war, and for reasons not as well reasoned as mine.