speaking of the first snow storm I was going to a friends house who lives in the middle of nowhere up in the mountains here about 15 miles away and was being an idiot, driving too fast on what went from snow floor to solid black ice section of road........
my driver rear tire was OFF THE GROUND as this road is on a cliff that is about 30 feet down to a creek. I was litterly about 3 feet from tottaling my car.
thank god it was not a bonnie.
Worst part about it is that my old boss from work (he quit in utter frustration with the company etc...) showed up 5 minutes later in a 4x4 truck with chains after chopping a christmas tree from the forest lol.