i would be dead if I did any of this. You must be a really nice and forgiving man. I dont want to even think about what my parents would do to me or my sister if we did any of this stuff.

Paul, I've been following this thread for the last few days, and I feel the need to address the comments I have quoted above.

I hardly know you from Adam, and I do not mean to attack your integrity as a parent or as another man, but I think part of the problem is the attitude you and your wife take toward Chynna. The fact that you are even CONSIDERING leaving her home alone after all this drama is absurd! You've got to bite the bullet and put your desires and ambitions on the back burner, because you have a serious family crisis on your hands. You must ignore the fact that this Pontiac Club Show is "a once a year event" and you've already paid the fee to enter your "pristine Formula Firebird." Listen to yourself! You've been stressing about your daughter'* irreverent, delinquent, promiscuous behavior for years, and now you're about to leave her at home alone to get drunk and have sex, all for the sake of your selfish desire to attend a car show? My goodness, Paul, have you forgotten everything that has happened?

And in the midst of all this, considering that the car show seems to be so high on your priority list, it seems your wife isn't willing to stay at home and keep the peace while you leave for a weekend. Wake up, Paul! By the sound of it, you would like a resolution to this problem, but you and your wife are about to create an opportunity for Chynna to raise hell and disrespect your home and family values while you're gone.

Buddy, it'* time for you and your wife to throw the weekend plans out the window for the sake of your daughter. This shouldn't even be a dilemma. You need to be willing to sacrifice your own plans for the sake of your family at the drop of a hat. This is not the time to go running off to a car show with Chynna unsupervised in the house, unless you want to come home to more homemade **** and empty liquor bottles. Bottom line: stay home this weekend and invest time with your daughter, who needs the positive attention from you. At the very least, your wife should be willing to stay home in your absence. But don't put it on her shoulders to stand up to your daughter; time to buck up and be the strong, loving, solid head of the household we know you can be.

Ive been following this thread and I agree with big_news on this one, your Bonneville, your Firebird, even those massive credit card bills arent going to mean a single thing if you lose your daughter are they? If you can honestly say that they still will then I seriously think you need to examine your priorities in life, if you love your daughter like you say you do, which from what ive read you really seem too, then there shouldnt even be a second thought about the car show....whats a car? whats an entry fee? when compared to your daughter?....ill tell you what they SHOULD be, they should be a worthless hunk of sheetmetal and money that means nothing to you....I hate to sound harsh like that but its the truth, and I think if you take the time to stop and think youll realize it.

As for the phone thing, couldnt you just get a landline phone? maybe one that cant do long distance calls? (to keep her from running up that bill) or something different phone wise, maybe a pre-paid account? so she only has a certain amount and then shes done, so if she cant take calls she loses her job? but that would only work if her job is important to her.

Above all I think the biggest step you could take in the right direction is to keep on praying, there isnt anything God cant help you through, and if you truly believe Him in this matter I know that things will work out, it may take some time, maybe even a long time, but I know if you trust God and pray for your family and your daughter, and call her the woman you want her to be and that she CAN be(whether she is or not) that one day you just might see the woman youve always wanted her to be....

keep trusting God on this one Paul, and were all here for you, even if you just want to vent.

Don't trust her at home Paul, you knw that... IF ya gotta miss the car show, so be it...

I've been watching too. I figure you have two options for WCBF. Bring her, or kick her out. She'* not going to change overnight despite learning how to vacuum recently.

Well for me I think a big Ole *** Whoopin is in order!!!!

first of all, do not go to the graduation and do not let your daughter go to the graduation..
she is not graduating and should not pretend that she is. she should not be allowed to go to the graduation or the parties afterward. she is not graduating, in fact she failed and should be punished, sent to summer school and sent to work all summer to
pay off her credit debt. l personally i think that you have let things get way out of hand and something seriously needs to be done..
it is time to put your foot down, let the taters hang, and put your house in order.

I am 30 years old have 2 boys 13 and 7. and talk to my teen when he brings home C.
but for me his teenage age years have just begun.

just my 2cents

Ya, I hear you guys.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to believe there is hope and part of my problem is "wanting" to trust that she will change overnight after each crisis is semi-resolved.
If you really knew Chynna, you would never know she can be like she sometimes acts......a real chamelion with fluttering eye lashes and a killer smile, she knows how to wrap me around her little finger.

She is working again now. She had the appointment today to take her driving test. I didn't let her have the vehicle.....she couldn't find her driver'* learning license anyway. .....so now the next test opportunity is not until November.

We probably won't be going to the Show n Shine this weekend. :(
I'll just have to suck it up and look forward to the Oregon Bonne Meet.....there'* going to be a lot of pent up action from me there this year.

Guaranteed if Chynna isn't coming to WCBF, this house will be locked up tight with police survellance. :P

I couldn't agree more thoere....

Problem is, he'* been there, and done that.....his tater'* are still hangin' I'll bet.....Just that SHE don't give a ****.

You're right, Bill, but you forgot the most important option: If things aren't straightened out and she'* still living at home, you might need to skip WCBF this year. Don't let your hobbies and interests get in the way of your family'* well-being. While you cannot live your life around the turmoil that Chynna is creating, you must be open to the fact that WCBF may need to be sacrificed for the benefit of your loved ones. Yes, it may be the highlight of your summer, but WCBF is an insignificant blip on the radar if your time would be better spent helping your daughter through a tough period in life. Being a father means preparing yourself to make the selfless decisions for the benefit of your wife and children.

To paraphrase Gale Sayers (and many other people), "My God comes first, my family comes second, and I am third."

I brought her into this world and I'll take her out if it comes to that.
Not the highlight of my summer.....of the year