MMmm...sounds right to this younger chick. :P

LOL

Thats my style. I hate to say it but I do spoil girls that I have been with. Now, I wonder how it would be if I didn't?

i have the same problem

I know I am not the person to be giving 'sound' advice, but if you want to attract a nice girl and get the chance to date one, don't try to spoil or impress them on your first date (even after the first few dates don't try and impress them overly at any time, although a little here and there might be ok as long as you aren't being desparate), nor should you let them know you are desparate (makes them think you might be incompetent, or something along those lines).
The last few girls I've been with I have the 'I'm the Shi*' & 'I'm really interested' aside and just been myself. Treated them as though they were a good friend the first week or two (given I'd hung out with them more than 2-3 times) and if I felt I needed more space (hey I'm 23 and need to focus somewhat on my career) the girls just won't give any leash and beg for more attention, and if I let on that I'm interested things can get really get interesting (in a good way) fast, maybe a little too fast.
Taking it easy the first couple dates can really help to know who you are dating (your type or not) and if you do split, there'* nothing to feel guilty for other than breaking up -if she'* doesn't want to (how often do guy'* feel guilty when breaking up anyhow?)

Good thoughts, guys, but that'* the fastest way to get rid of me...maybe i'm weird, but i hate letting guys pay for ANYTHING. I like knowing I can pull my own weight.

Just be yourself, that'* all we (the worthwhile ones) will ask of you.

--Christine

Go Christine!
Woot woot!

Thank you, thank you... *bows*

I'm probably driving you guys nuts with all my soapbox schpeels lately... :P

--Christine

I agree with Christine!! Guys overlook the obvious things. Women don't want much but we want what we want. Guys think women just want a guy to pay for them and buy them stuff. I like to buy stuff for the guy every now and then and I do like gestures. I would appreciate a flower picked "just because your thinking of me" vs. a present bought out of a feeling of obligation. I personally don't want some guy to pay for everything (I have a great job making decent money), I don't want some guy to hang on every word or totally let me walk all over them. Because I will if given the chance that is why I need a man equal to my personality. I am just an independent woman and have been around the block a few times in my bonneville and know what I want out of life. I want an equal partner to share with and if I can't have what I want then I'd rather not date that person

That'* what I was sayin -don't feel pressured to be what you aren't. Don't look at it as a date -look at like you do when you're hangin out with the guys. Don't be afraid to speak what'* on your mind, but don't focus on yourself or the both of you too much. Discuss things that are in the news, highlights of your job, your life, family, how each other'* day was, interesting events (happy, embarassing, comical) in your personal lives, hobbies, interests, etc.
For activities try a walk in the park (at night is an awesome time for walking because for some unknown reason incredible conversations seem to be had after dark more-so than during the day or in lighted areas -maybe something to do with you can't really see each other but you can hear each other perfectly well and that gives a sense that allows us to relax and speak more).
Hangin out with friends in a crowd i.e. bar, club, bowling alley, restaraunt, etc...(but not too noisy so that you can't hear each other, must allow for conversations without too much for distractions).
Ok, so I'm not the smartest peanut in the turd, but I figure alot of my success in dating has to do with following some of these guidelines, yet not following them (just letting it flow, and not trying to make something happen).

Oh, and these are ladies are telling it like it is.