Well I know that aint true... my dad was so much like me when he was a kid and he had a 4 cyl honda that he says lasted him 180k miles he tells me stories about all his cars he had at ages 18-27 (he was in a car accident that put him in the hospital for 1 year at 17 years old hit a telephone pole at 75 mph (black ice) without his seatbelt on they were all drunk he was sitting in the middle of the car well neways he got some pain and suffering money that paid for alot of his cars he bought) he says his honda lasted 180k miles of total tourture he says when he was in 1st or 2nd gear and his rpms were 8k if he punched it the rest of the way down he says the front end would litterally hop (light car he could lift the front end) only cars that didn't last long back then he says was his brand new gto that he junked at 85k miles he says all of the bigger cars wouldn't last long he says he put drive axles in transmissions engine swaps all the time. But nowadays i dont know what kind of cars are suppost to last long and which ones cant take a beating...

lol i know my 1987 pontiac 6000-le i had for 11 months (had 77k on it 102k when junked) I litterally did no lie probally 35 reverse drops or neutral drops the differential went out at 102k and alot were nasty drops like redline drops (had a 2.8l v-6) spent mabey 200 bucks in repairs minus tires (put alot of spare tires on for increased burnouts )

I have learned since i have never done a neutral drop or reverse drop with any car after my 6000-le I dont burn out to often mainly like acceleration

Driving is fun and all but it is still a privelige and you should take it seriously. Don't beat your car. If you appreciate it and take care of it you will have it for years to come. Check out all the mods that can be done and you can be the envy of your friends when they see your car sharp and not beaten down. If you want a car to beat go buy a ricer.

When you are ready to handle an upscale car then drive a bonnie. That is just my opinion.

My friends and I have smartened up a bit...sometimes we buy 100 dollar or less cars to beat the **** out of untill we get bored or untill they go i.e 1989 cavilier (100 bucks got sick and ran with no oil plug cause we couldn't kill it no matter what we did) 1988 pontiac grand am /w 215k miles (75 bucks couldn't kill it so smashed it up and stripped the reverse gear by do a 60 mph neutral to reverse drop) 1983 pontiac sunbird (100 bucks rust bucket only lasted 1 month frame fell apart) It saves on the cars we spend decent money on and helps us get the craving out of our blood we LOVE to be wise asses and make a old car look shittie and sound like **** i.e. running on 4 spare tires with the back 2 tires turned inside out (had to rip apart the back brakes to get em to go on backwards) the most we get are 15 days which rarly happen

My neighbor is Jseabert. He has a 93SSE. He thrashed it so bad in the first 6 months he had it (at age 17) that he now has blown his torque converter and 3rd gear. Perfect engine, but nothing goes anywhere, except idle at the curb. That'* a $2000 fix, which he can't afford right now. So he drives his Mom'* Dodge Caravan. At least it'* the same color as our cars

Think about it.

Reverse drops? I was scared enough doing reverse 180'* on snow. Maybe you should find some econo box to trash instead of a car that'* possibly in good shape, and can work for a long time.

Screwing around with tiny cars that weigh about 2000lbs isn't as bad as cars with over 200 Horse, and weigh almost 4000lbs.

You know as well as we do that nothing _we_ say is going to change the way you treat your cars; that'* your decision. But until you learn how to operate a couple tons of metal in the way it was designed and the way you were licensed for, for God'* sake make sure there'* no chance that anyone else will get hurt besides you.

I'm not referring to just bending a car (yours or someone else'*): you don't want to be in the position of having to pay out insurance (or out-of-pocket expenses) for someone else'* injuries, not to mention any followup lawsuit they may feel like slapping on you.

Trust me, bad things happen at the weirdest times, and you don't want to be in a position of having to explain anything crazy that might have contributed to it. The 16-year-old girl in a Pontiac 6000 who pulled out of a side street in broad daylight in front of my GTO _died_ for it, and for all the grief that caused, to this day I'm relieved that I wasn't doing anything wrong to have provoked that.

I figure if you abuse it too badly you'll kill your tranny before anything else. When I first got my 94 GTP at 53k it ran well, but by 60k the tranny went. The guys at the shop could tell that the first owner of the car beat on it really hard (neutral slams and burnouts). Everything in the tranny had to be replaced, including the reverse gear, which was somehow cracked. Both the front wheel bearings also went bad on that car. However after fixing all that, she runs like new and now has over 100k miles, and I dont drive it like a grandma.

The moral, cars can take some hard drivng, but not straight up abuse.

good luck with the bonneville

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best thread evAr!!!

I agree!

I lot of good advice and life experience in this thread.