Vin Question
02-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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Vin Question
Well I was working on my L67 swap and we got to thinking that the VIN would be on the block or Transmission somewhere, and then I could just get a carfax for it and have an idea of the life my motor lead. Well the only thing is that only I think the last 9 or so are on the block. My dad seems to think that we could use the first half of a VIN from a another PA ultra from 98 because those should all be the same. I am not sure about this but figured I would ask.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
02-23-2010, 01:04 PM
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from what i have seen with the bonnies is most are 1G2HZ54 but for some with the L67 the Z will be something different have seen them with a Y or some other letters also all were SSEi'*
02-23-2010, 01:14 PM
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everytime i called GM looking for a part they asked me what type of car it was and if i have the last 9 digits of my vin...
i think it would work if it was the same car.. but dont quote me on it
i think it would work if it was the same car.. but dont quote me on it
02-23-2010, 03:54 PM
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The first 8 digits should be the same for another PA ultra.
This is a 97 PA limited VIN: 1G4CW52K2V4633554
The 8th digit of the VIN will be a 1 for L67, and K for L36, as the VIN above is. Without knowing the plant code (11th digit) and the Check Digit (9th) you might have an issue though.
Decoding Modern Car VIN Numbers
The 17 digit VIN began in 1981 and continues to present.
Understanding your vehicles serial (VIN) number
* 1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.*.A.(1or4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(*), Germany(W), Italy(Z)
* 2nd character- Identifies the manufacturer.
For example; Audi(A), BMW(B), Chrysler(C), Dodge(B), Ford(F), GM Canada(7), General Motors(G), Honda(H), Jaquar(A), Lincoln(L), Mercedes Benz(D), Mercury(M), Nissan(N), Plymouth(P), Toyota(T), VW(V), Volvo(V).
* 3rd character- Identifies vehicle type or manufacturing division.
Chevrolet(1), Pontiac(2), Oldsmobile(3), Buick(4), GM Overseas(5), Cadillac(6), GM Canada(7), Saturn(
, GM Overseas(9), Chevy Truck (C), GMC Truck(T)
* 4th character- Identifies the restrain system.
Non-passive(A), Automatic belts(B), Inflatable restraint(C)
* 5th character- Identifies the series.
Chevette CS trim(B), 2WD Truck(C), Cavalier base trim(C), Cavalier CS trim(D), Cavalier type 10(E), Van(G), Citation(H), 4WD Truck(K), Chevette base trim(J), Impala(L), Camaro Sport Coupe(P), Step Van(P), Caprice Classic(N), Camaro Berlinetta(*), Small Pickup(*), Malibu(T), Malibu Classic(W), El Camino(W), Celebrity(W), Citation(X), Monte Carlo(Z)
* 6th and 7th character- Identifies the body style.
Landau Coupe(03), 2 dr Coupe(0, 1/2 ton(10), 2 dr notchback Coupe(11), 4dr Sedan(19), 3/4 ton(20), 1 ton(30), Sport Coupe or Convertible(27), Station Wagon(35), Sport Coupe(37), Sport Coupe(47), 2-1/2 ton(50), 3 ton(60), 4-1/2 ton(65), Convertible(67), 4dr Hatchback Sedan(6, 4dr Sedan(69), 2 dr Hatchback(77), Sedan-pickup(El Camino)(80), Sport Coupe(87)
* 8th characters- Identifies the engine.
* 9th character- is a check digit to verify VIN accuracy.
* 10th character- Identifies the model year.
For example: 1981(B), 1982(C), 1983(D), 1984(E), 1985(F), 1986(G), 1987(H), 1988(J), 1989(K), 1990(L), 1991(M), 1992(N), 1993(P), 1994(R), 1995(*), 1996(T), 1997(V), 1998(W), 1999(X), 2000(Y), 2001(1), 2002(2), 2003(3)
* 11th character- Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle.
Lakewood(A), Baltimore(B), Lansing B(C), Doraville(D), Linden(E), Flint (Chevy)(F), Framingham(G), Flint (Buick)(H), Janesville(J), Kosai(K), Leeds(K), Lansing(M), Norwood(N), Pontiac (Pontiac)(P), Detriot(Q), Arlington(R), St. Louis(*), Ramos Arizpe(*), Tarrytown(T), Hamtramck(U), Pontiac (GMC)(V), Fairfax(X), Wilmington(V), Fremont(Z), Wentzville(1), Oshawa #2(1), Moraine (T&B)(2), St. Therese(2), Detroit (T&B)(3), St. Eustache(3), Orion(4), Bowling Green(5), London(5), Oklahoma City(6), Lordstown(7), Shreveport(, Fujisawa (Japan) Luv(, Detroit (Cadillac)(9), Oshawa #1(9), Pontiac (GM Truck)(0)
* 12th to 17th characters- Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production
as it rolled off the manufacturers assembly line. Starting with 100001.
The 17 digit VIN began in 1981 and continues to present.
Understanding your vehicles serial (VIN) number
* 1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.*.A.(1or4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(*), Germany(W), Italy(Z)
* 2nd character- Identifies the manufacturer.
For example; Audi(A), BMW(B), Chrysler(C), Dodge(B), Ford(F), GM Canada(7), General Motors(G), Honda(H), Jaquar(A), Lincoln(L), Mercedes Benz(D), Mercury(M), Nissan(N), Plymouth(P), Toyota(T), VW(V), Volvo(V).
* 3rd character- Identifies vehicle type or manufacturing division.
Chevrolet(1), Pontiac(2), Oldsmobile(3), Buick(4), GM Overseas(5), Cadillac(6), GM Canada(7), Saturn(
, GM Overseas(9), Chevy Truck (C), GMC Truck(T)* 4th character- Identifies the restrain system.
Non-passive(A), Automatic belts(B), Inflatable restraint(C)
* 5th character- Identifies the series.
Chevette CS trim(B), 2WD Truck(C), Cavalier base trim(C), Cavalier CS trim(D), Cavalier type 10(E), Van(G), Citation(H), 4WD Truck(K), Chevette base trim(J), Impala(L), Camaro Sport Coupe(P), Step Van(P), Caprice Classic(N), Camaro Berlinetta(*), Small Pickup(*), Malibu(T), Malibu Classic(W), El Camino(W), Celebrity(W), Citation(X), Monte Carlo(Z)
* 6th and 7th character- Identifies the body style.
Landau Coupe(03), 2 dr Coupe(0
, 1/2 ton(10), 2 dr notchback Coupe(11), 4dr Sedan(19), 3/4 ton(20), 1 ton(30), Sport Coupe or Convertible(27), Station Wagon(35), Sport Coupe(37), Sport Coupe(47), 2-1/2 ton(50), 3 ton(60), 4-1/2 ton(65), Convertible(67), 4dr Hatchback Sedan(6, 4dr Sedan(69), 2 dr Hatchback(77), Sedan-pickup(El Camino)(80), Sport Coupe(87)* 8th characters- Identifies the engine.
* 9th character- is a check digit to verify VIN accuracy.
* 10th character- Identifies the model year.
For example: 1981(B), 1982(C), 1983(D), 1984(E), 1985(F), 1986(G), 1987(H), 1988(J), 1989(K), 1990(L), 1991(M), 1992(N), 1993(P), 1994(R), 1995(*), 1996(T), 1997(V), 1998(W), 1999(X), 2000(Y), 2001(1), 2002(2), 2003(3)
* 11th character- Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle.
Lakewood(A), Baltimore(B), Lansing B(C), Doraville(D), Linden(E), Flint (Chevy)(F), Framingham(G), Flint (Buick)(H), Janesville(J), Kosai(K), Leeds(K), Lansing(M), Norwood(N), Pontiac (Pontiac)(P), Detriot(Q), Arlington(R), St. Louis(*), Ramos Arizpe(*), Tarrytown(T), Hamtramck(U), Pontiac (GMC)(V), Fairfax(X), Wilmington(V), Fremont(Z), Wentzville(1), Oshawa #2(1), Moraine (T&B)(2), St. Therese(2), Detroit (T&B)(3), St. Eustache(3), Orion(4), Bowling Green(5), London(5), Oklahoma City(6), Lordstown(7), Shreveport(
, Fujisawa (Japan) Luv(, Detroit (Cadillac)(9), Oshawa #1(9), Pontiac (GM Truck)(0)* 12th to 17th characters- Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production
as it rolled off the manufacturers assembly line. Starting with 100001.
The 8th digit of the VIN will be a 1 for L67, and K for L36, as the VIN above is. Without knowing the plant code (11th digit) and the Check Digit (9th) you might have an issue though.
02-23-2010, 04:02 PM
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The blocks are all the same, as long as it'* a l67 series2. There will be differences on body style, such at the alt, ICM bracket, and motor mounts.
02-23-2010, 06:13 PM
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Can you get the vin from the scrapyard?
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02-23-2010, 07:30 PM
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Either do the idea you have or call a dealer. Ask about a part and give them the last 9 and the year. Then ask if they can pull up your full vin for you. My local dealer was able to give me an rpo list for my car and build date etc from trying to look up a part. But they gotta be looking for a part otherwise the system tells them to pound sand.
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