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Old 10-07-2002, 10:45 AM
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Ummmmmmm looks like the older guys ( Deathrat, and me ) have it right again. :P Even though Pontaic,Chevy,etc are from the same Mother, we don`t use their names for our Division.
Old 10-07-2002, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathRat
The "i" stands for induction! But Will was the closest!
SE > Special Edition
SSE > Special Sports Edition
SSEi > Special Sports Edition Induction

You old fart !! you told me before "from a reliable pontiac source" that the trim levels meant everything i said before, and the i was definately latin for supercharged unfortunately, there is no trim level literature on the internet!! So until then, it will remain a Super Sport Edition to me!!

Turtle: They are from the same mother, and don't use the same first names, (Impala/Bonneville) but they still use the same last name!! (SS)
Old 10-07-2002, 11:18 AM
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Ok, I'm gonna settle this today so I can fix the timeline, and SOMEBODY is gonna eat some crow. Don't know who, yet, but I will soon!
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Ok, all you arguing bozos! I'm on the phone with Pontiac at this very moment....
and they're researching the mess for us.....yes RESEARCHING. The guy knows some of them off the top of his head from his own club affiliation, but he'* going to make sure.........still on hold..................still holding..............nice piano music...........
......still going.......killing time by replying to a PM from Bonneville_blue.......
......I could really use a change in music. I could have contacted Pontiac Historical Services, but they are an independent company......gotta go straight to the source on this one. Still holding.........over 12 minutes on hold (that'* US time, not Canadian).
.......still here. We have guitars now, not just a piano......so much for a change in music........he'* got 3 people helping him now......info must be buried in a vault.....
.......they're didgging up a time capsule now............still on hold.........Damn. They're gonna call back by wednesday. They're researching SE, SSE, SLE, SSEi, GTO, GT, and GLS.

BTW, the Series III 3800 is for real, and they don't know ANYTHING about the Bonneville being dropped for or AFTER 2004

I'll post again when I hear from them.
Old 10-07-2002, 02:49 PM
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In the meantime, while waiting for Pontiac to call me back, here'* what I've come up with on the net:

SE- Southeast. Self-Explanatory (punny....they BOTH have SE)
SSE- Sustainable Seas Expedition
SLE - St. Louis Encephalitis (nasty sick)
SSEi- Can't tell you. My browser won't display japanese characters!

Unless Pontiac clears this up, these are the meanings that will appear on the timeline. Why? 'Cuz I can FTP to my server and YOU can't!
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I knew i heard correctly at the Chicago Auto Show 2002 about the Series III motor. They claimed it was going to power the New G-Force Grand Prix 280X280.
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DETROIT - General Motors will produce a 7.5-liter V-12 engine to be used in future Cadillacs and will launch a family of overhead-cam, high output V-6 engines.

GM also is revamping its pushrod V-6 engine family to include displacements of up to 3.9 liters and equipping the engines with fuel-saving cylinder deactivation technology, the automaker said Friday, Oct. 4, during a press event at its proving grounds in Milford, Mich.

Another addition to the automaker'* portfolio is a six-speed, rear-wheel-drive automatic transmission that will go into production in 2005.

The powertrain changes will enable GM to reduce emissions and improve fuel economy of future vehicles while offering higher performance.

Cadillac was the last GM division to offer a V-12, back in the 1930s. The coming V-12 is a new design, GM said. It will have an aluminum block and cylinder heads, double overhead cam-shafts and four valves per cylinder.

GM said the V-12 would produce significantly more than 500 hp but would not be more specific. Production volumes will be limited to fewer than 5,000 units a year, said Thomas Stephens, group vice president of GM Powertrain. He would not say whether the engine will be built at a GM plant or by an outside contractor. A 7.5-liter V-12 concept engine in the Cadillac Cien concept car was rated at 750 hp.

The V-12 was designed to fit in the same space as the V-8 engines GM uses in full-sized trucks and sport-utilities, Stephens said. But it won't fit in the engine bay of the upcoming Cadillac XLR roadster, he said.

The new overhead-cam V-6 engine family will have displacements ranging from 2.8 liters to 3.8 liters, aluminum blocks and cylinder heads and four valves per cylinder. GM said the first engine from the family will be a 3.6-liter V-6 that makes 255 hp and 250 pounds-feet of torque through technologies such as variable valve timing. It did not disclose when the engine will be introduced or in which vehicle.

The first of the revamped pushrod V-6 engines, using cylinder deactivation technology, will be a 3.5-liter unit in the redesigned Chevrolet Malibu, which goes on sale next year. The engine will run on only three cylinders when power demands are light, such as cruising at highway speeds.
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Hey, wacko! Tam already posted that!
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Originally Posted by Drifter420
DETROIT - General Motors will produce a 7.5-liter V-12 engine to be used in future Cadillacs and will launch a family of overhead-cam, high output V-6 engines.

GM also is revamping its pushrod V-6 engine family to include displacements of up to 3.9 liters and equipping the engines with fuel-saving cylinder deactivation technology, the automaker said Friday, Oct. 4, during a press event at its proving grounds in Milford, Mich.

Another addition to the automaker'* portfolio is a six-speed, rear-wheel-drive automatic transmission that will go into production in 2005.

The powertrain changes will enable GM to reduce emissions and improve fuel economy of future vehicles while offering higher performance.

Cadillac was the last GM division to offer a V-12, back in the 1930s. The coming V-12 is a new design, GM said. It will have an aluminum block and cylinder heads, double overhead cam-shafts and four valves per cylinder.

GM said the V-12 would produce significantly more than 500 hp but would not be more specific. Production volumes will be limited to fewer than 5,000 units a year, said Thomas Stephens, group vice president of GM Powertrain. He would not say whether the engine will be built at a GM plant or by an outside contractor. A 7.5-liter V-12 concept engine in the Cadillac Cien concept car was rated at 750 hp.

The V-12 was designed to fit in the same space as the V-8 engines GM uses in full-sized trucks and sport-utilities, Stephens said. But it won't fit in the engine bay of the upcoming Cadillac XLR roadster, he said.

The new overhead-cam V-6 engine family will have displacements ranging from 2.8 liters to 3.8 liters, aluminum blocks and cylinder heads and four valves per cylinder. GM said the first engine from the family will be a 3.6-liter V-6 that makes 255 hp and 250 pounds-feet of torque through technologies such as variable valve timing. It did not disclose when the engine will be introduced or in which vehicle.

The first of the revamped pushrod V-6 engines, using cylinder deactivation technology, will be a 3.5-liter unit in the redesigned Chevrolet Malibu, which goes on sale next year. The engine will run on only three cylinders when power demands are light, such as cruising at highway speeds.

*sniff, sniff* I smell plagurism!
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Sorry... sobbering up... ...must be from all them Tree Higgin, and being a Canadian Hippe.. ha ha ha ::

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