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View Poll Results: Flush the clutch material out of the trans or not
flush the trans even if the fluid has 150,000 miles on it
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dont flush it, the broken down material may help the trans last longer
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:59 PM
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Thank you Hans


And Willwren,

How many miles are on both of your Cars? and at what miles did you first change the fluid?

Im betting its not 150K or 175K
Old 01-31-2007, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bandit
Thank you Hans
I dont agree with you bandit, I'm just pointing out that dozens of other sources on the internet say DONT flush it at high miles, however this seems to pertain to OLDER cars....
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Then I guess my flush was just a fluke?
Old 01-31-2007, 05:02 PM
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flushing a trans with high miles will not kill a trans....period....you want new fluid....

Bandint - you had a problem when you did you did your service....remember you couldnt get your filter back in properly, then had to fix it again.....ya that is what killed your trans not the fluid

my father who is a ASE/GM tech has never had a issue with a customers car after performing a flush on the vehicle.....
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Originally Posted by petraman
Then I guess my flush was just a fluke?
I have yet to read a source with someone who flushed on a 4t65 and had a failure shortly after even if the trans was perfect before..I've seen dozens of cases where on a 60'* experienced failure shortly after a trans flush...The point is that this a slightly different trans and it may not be as dependent on the clutch material as say a 60e. the 4t65'* also seem to laste LONGER in general than the 4t60s, just look at all the people with high miles 97-99s who have no problems with the trans, even travis who drives his car pretty hard still has a somewhat good trans at what 270k??!!!
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Originally Posted by toastedoats
B adnit and anyone else who says dont flush: Could you explain to us all how that CLEAN fluid will kill a transmission?? That is possibly the stupidest thing i have ever heard...
You assume that the fluid is clean. And maybe it is most of time. Maybe in some shops, all of the time. But can you be sure of every shop? Can you be sure if you don't do the work yourself? It is a matter of trust. Consider the shop with a flushing machine with an internal filter that has failed, or some other internal failure. Are there flushing machines that share pumping circuits for old and new fluid? Are there flushing/cleaning machines that filter and re-use solvent? Consider the technician who is poorly trained, or just not too bright and operates the flushing equipment improperly. Is it possible for you to get some of the trash that came from the last customer'* car? Is it possible during flushing - cleaning - fluid exchanging to stir up junk in the pan and circulate it through the trans where it might do harm?

I honestly don't know the answers to all these questions, but I know how to minimize my risk.
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Originally Posted by 1993 SLE
flushing a trans with high miles will not kill a trans....period....you want new fluid....

Bandint - you had a problem when you did you did your service....remember you couldnt get your filter back in properly, then had to fix it again.....ya that is what killed your trans not the fluid

my father who is a ASE/GM tech has never had a issue with a customers car after performing a flush on the vehicle.....
WOOO WOOO WOOOO

I did NOT!!!!! say anything about not getting my filter back in right, i said i might have not got it back in right but after checking it again i Did put it in RIGHT!

DO NOT PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH

And about you dad... well how many 175K miles cars has he dont thats NEVER had the trans fluid changed?


Also It is a FACT that now my Trans has a Problem and before it did NOT have a problem. so Please tell me how its Not from doing the fluid change and filter change!

MY TRANS was not slipping before and was not having any cold problems,it was shifting fien before and now it is NOT
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BANDIT. Over 100k on both cars. And you said your problems started after a FLUSH, but now you're saying it was after a pan and filter? Which is it?
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Originally Posted by willwren
BANDIT. Over 100k on both cars. And you said your problems started after a FLUSH, but now you're saying it was after a pan and filter? Which is it?
ok NOT FLUSH but PAN Drop and Change 6.5 Quarts and new filter. and it started to have problems.

Thats what everyone i know on BC and locally said is a good thing to do. so i did it.
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thank you ryan for confusing everyone on this thread. could you please edit your previous post/* so that people do not obtain incorrect information in case they do not read every post in the thread?


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