Originally Posted by jasonapr78
SSEi95...you're right. The '03 Grand Prix'* are already out and they are only available in sedan form...no more coupes. Pontiac has definitely discontinued the Bonneville...it just isn't widely known yet. Actually, the sunfire was supposed to go as well because Pontiac initially thought the Vibe would replace the Sunfire but that isn't the case so they've decided to keep the sunfire around a little while longer. The GTO is basically replacing the Firebird and the Grand Prix'* will get a face lift in '04 (due out in April of '03 I hear) but our Bonnies are gone.
The decision to drop the GP coupe came from the same line as the decision to drop the F-Bodies after so long. The sales just weren't there and the cars didn't fit into the new global platforms that all GM'* will be on by 2006.
As for the end of the Bonneville... I would love to know where you got this from. My father worked for GM for 30+ years and in using some of his connections into the world of Bob Lutz, I will now give everyone the full Pontiac Monte:
GP - Interior and fascia redo in late 2003-possible stretching by 3-6 inches in length. Possible engines include the dropping of the 3.4. 3.8'* will include L36 and the new L71 GX/P proto engine. This engine was well received by the guys in the factory and in random questionaires done at the auto shows. A few early production L71'* might sneak into next year'* late GTP and SSEI models.
GTO - tenetive release in May 2003, depends on final Federal approvals
Sunfire - Watch this to morph into the Solstice somewhere around 2004-2006. Unclear as to engine selection now, but watch for a turbo version of the 2.2L
Grand AM - This is where things start to get good. The GA is slated to go onto the Sigma platform for 2004. This means a larger, possibly rear-drive GA. The Sigma platform can be front, rear or all wheel drive, so we'll have to wait on that. Engines slated at this time: 3.4(base - could change to the newer 3.5), 3.8 L36!!!
It is possible that the 3.8 will get the Ram Air option for the GT, but it will not get the L67 or L71.
Asstec - This is Pontiac'* Gremlin. It will finally go the way of the Gremlin late in the 2004 year, possibly being replaced by (this is a seriously guarded GM secret) a version of the Holden 'Ute. It would enter as a 2005 model ONLY if the GTO sells up to it'* numbers. This could be good...
Bonneville - Now for the news everyone'* been arguing about for 3 years. THE BONNEVILLE IS NOT GOING AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With the demise of Oldsmobile, the Aurora and it'* development team has been looking for a home and seems to have found one. The next-gen Bonnie will be a revamped Aurora with a generational reskinning to come into Pontiac'* fold. The timing of the switch is uncertain as of right now, but the engineers say late 2004 - mid 2005 release. What does this mean for us? It means production V8 performance power for the first time since 1972. The engine selection will be as follows, in increasing order of optioning:
L36 - SE
L71 - SSE/SLE (SLE may be dropped)
A41(internal designation) - SSEi
Watch for this motor to produce somewhere in the 300-325 range IF the GTO comes over with the Australian specs pretty much intake. If not, it may go as low as 275, but not much more. Torque will be up in the 280-300 range. Here'* the kicker... this new-gen Bonnie will most likely be RWD with a similar setup to the Vette - rear trans for better weight distribution.
All this comes as our new car-god, Bob Lutz, goes ape over moving each of the divisions further way from each other and making the divisions "brands" again. Chevy will become more bland, having only base levels of performance. Buick will go near-lux, with an emphasis on the older crowd. Cadillac is still having an identity crisis, but that will end with the intro of the XLR roadster. It will not be you Grampa'* ride.. he'd better get used to Buick. Pontiac will be where the hot rods will live, from top to bottom. No more minivans, crossovers or Gremlin-like creations of overly-caffinated 35 year old designers.
This report brought to you courtesy of my dad, Dave Wimmer and Mr Robert Lutz.