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10-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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You can lay off the meds 
I don't have a strong enough magnet to test if they're attracted to it. Could some parts associated with a new cam install (cam, OE-R lifters, Yella Terra Rockers) be NON-magnetic, and could that differentiate the main bearings?
I guess I'm curious to know if it'* just new parts wearing in, or my worst fear.
I don't have a strong enough magnet to test if they're attracted to it. Could some parts associated with a new cam install (cam, OE-R lifters, Yella Terra Rockers) be NON-magnetic, and could that differentiate the main bearings?
I guess I'm curious to know if it'* just new parts wearing in, or my worst fear.
10-20-2007, 09:59 PM
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As far as I know everything that went into your motor should be attracted by a magnet (even though you have aluminum Yella Terras I'm assuming the bearings, roller tips are ferrous.) Bill brings up a good point; when I change my oil tomorrow I will not **** myself if I see anything now.
Many I talked to in the 3800 community told me if I was going to do something wrong with the cam install I would most likely know in 200-300miles, I would spin a bearing or something else.
Bob I'll tell you the same I told Bill when he was having trouble with his motors. "I'll go have a stiff drink for you."
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Many I talked to in the 3800 community told me if I was going to do something wrong with the cam install I would most likely know in 200-300miles, I would spin a bearing or something else.
Bob I'll tell you the same I told Bill when he was having trouble with his motors. "I'll go have a stiff drink for you."
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10-20-2007, 10:09 PM
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Haha, thanks.
I talked to Boosty on the phone too, and man I wish I would have had the oil changed a second time (like RIGHT when I got home from Intense). I guess I thought I was good to go after the "dino rinse," but I probably should have done a little more research instead of just assuming.
I do have a slightly more hopeful outlook since it'* common for the first change after the cam to look like ***, but I'm not about to be overly optomistic since I drove like this so long.
I talked to Boosty on the phone too, and man I wish I would have had the oil changed a second time (like RIGHT when I got home from Intense). I guess I thought I was good to go after the "dino rinse," but I probably should have done a little more research instead of just assuming.
I do have a slightly more hopeful outlook since it'* common for the first change after the cam to look like ***, but I'm not about to be overly optomistic since I drove like this so long.
10-20-2007, 10:24 PM
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I wish I would have changed my oil sooner then the 1k now also. I'll make sure to snap a few pictures for you when I do mine tomorrow afternoon.
Your welcome! 
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Haha, thanks.
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10-20-2007, 10:41 PM
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Bob...
Motor 1 lasted almost an exact 200 miles before it knocked at 15 full degrees and oil pressure was poor.
Motor 2 lasted almost a whole 10 miles.. it was shot from go.
Motor 3... well it'* doing fantastic and holding stong.
Keep your hopes up as long as you have good oil pressure, then you were running some dirty stuff and it'* ok as long as it was in the pan and not in your motor. You've got a strainer and filter to keep you safe. Hopefully that was enough.
Meanwhile... Ed and I can be found near the fridge.....we'll be drinking for you.
Motor 1 lasted almost an exact 200 miles before it knocked at 15 full degrees and oil pressure was poor.
Motor 2 lasted almost a whole 10 miles.. it was shot from go.
Motor 3... well it'* doing fantastic and holding stong.
Keep your hopes up as long as you have good oil pressure, then you were running some dirty stuff and it'* ok as long as it was in the pan and not in your motor. You've got a strainer and filter to keep you safe. Hopefully that was enough.
Meanwhile... Ed and I can be found near the fridge.....we'll be drinking for you.
10-21-2007, 12:33 AM
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I have never seen metal in oil after any kind of internal work. maybe I put too much pride in what I do. I have worked on lots of heavy equipment and rebuilt a couple of sbc'*.. never left metal in an engine.
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Originally Posted by roadtech195
never left metal in an engine.
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10-21-2007, 10:21 AM
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Here is the way I am looking at it...
Its the same bottom end, so theoretically there should be no wear from the bottom end at all...
Now with a new cam it would be possible to see some wear, But I would not expect that from a roller cam.. We have never rebuilt an engine to have that much in the oil, not even on a conventional lifter engine that went through a complete rebuild..
And A roller cam on engines with over 200k hardly have anything for wear, only wear you may see will be the path of the Roller... If you look at a conventional lifter motor you may have some lifter and cam wear..
I don't like what I see, It could be the assembly lube that they use to install the cams... Hard to say..
But not what I would expect to see in the oil... With the good oil pressure, he could change the oil and drive it...
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Its the same bottom end, so theoretically there should be no wear from the bottom end at all...
Now with a new cam it would be possible to see some wear, But I would not expect that from a roller cam.. We have never rebuilt an engine to have that much in the oil, not even on a conventional lifter engine that went through a complete rebuild..
And A roller cam on engines with over 200k hardly have anything for wear, only wear you may see will be the path of the Roller... If you look at a conventional lifter motor you may have some lifter and cam wear..
I don't like what I see, It could be the assembly lube that they use to install the cams... Hard to say..
But not what I would expect to see in the oil... With the good oil pressure, he could change the oil and drive it...
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10-21-2007, 03:09 PM
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On my way to change the oil again this afternoon....
I put about 50 miles on the car yesterday. Oil PSI was solidly over 60 cruising, and about 45-50 at hot idle with no "bad" sounds coming from the motor.
No matter what comes out of this though, even if it'* driving just fine after a few more thousand miles, I'll never be 100% confident in the motor which really sucks :(
I put about 50 miles on the car yesterday. Oil PSI was solidly over 60 cruising, and about 45-50 at hot idle with no "bad" sounds coming from the motor.
No matter what comes out of this though, even if it'* driving just fine after a few more thousand miles, I'll never be 100% confident in the motor which really sucks :(