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Old 04-13-2008, 04:20 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Danthurs
Tell ya what zoomer, you match the MSD wire price and I'll take your wires.
Are you serious? You'd have to be crazy to think a vendor is going to come down $40 on a $100 wire set when the price you're asking him to come down to is for a completely different wire set.
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I never had a problem with my MSD wires and coil packs on my '96 Ciera and '94 Century. Back when I had money (I was a paperboy for a large area, made $300 every 2 weeks.), I had a '96 Ciera with the 3100 that would be considered lightly modded. I did exhaust manifold and exhaust work, intake porting, MSD coils, MSD wires, intake, etc. My dad drove the Ciera back and forth 6 days a week to work for 15,000 miles, and we had absolutely no problems with either MSD product. Please note that the 3100 uses identical coils and a near identical ICM, and no problems occured whatsoever.

My Opinion? I say buy the MSD wires. I know I will be this summer along with the coils.

My Dad used to build up muscle cars with his friends all the time, and they swore by MSD products. Granted they were on distributor equipped cars, but the products are 100% excellent.
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Regarding Zooomer'* further posts on the previous page:

I have two college degrees. One in microwave communications (nothing to do with ovens) and one in digital electronics. Both backed up by a basic Electronics program. I worked in Avionics for 4 years before that.

I currently design and build custom R&D laser systems for HP including wiring and controls, PLC'*, power supply circuits, etc. I've been doing this for 10 years of my 16 years with HP. This is design work from the ground up. Every aspect be it laser, optical, controls, power supply, and mechanical.

In addition, during a little impromptu mini-meet yesterday, I pulled my front three plugs out of my 93 which I am currently running a MIX of OEM and MSD coils. I had my 2/5 coil fail after 5 years, and replaced it with a good OEM coil. All SIX coils (MSD and OEM set) were tested with an ohmmeter and then with a Megger (megohmeter, which heavily loads a coil to force a breakdown if it'* prone to it). All coils installed on the car were chosen because they met the proper spec.

Guess what? After less than a month like this, I found my #5 plug slightly fouled and looking like it was a little 'warm'. On a hunch, I pulled the rear three, and found the #2 looked identical, but the 1, 3, 4, and 6 looked beautiful.

But MSD'* on my 1/4 and 3/6 don't make any difference, right? Not as much on a S2 L67 perhaps, but the point is proven that the ICM isn't the limiting factor in my case. The coils are.

I didn't post my qualifications on the previous page for a reason. For the most part, my reputation here makes it moot. When I tell people I test something before I post it, they know from past history to bank on it. Secondly, debating with you in the past has proven a waste of time, even on the phone, and others here share this same experience. The way you have treated some of our members in the past have shown you have a very 'stern' and abusive attitude at times, and you've been cautioned about it in the past. For that reason, I generally steer clear of your posts unless I see something that really stands out as wrong. That'* where I step in with my own knowledge and experience.

I wouldn't normally be so direct in a reply like this, but you asked for it on the previous page. And you've had ample warnings in the past. It'* this very attitude that has created a good-sized group of people that won't buy from ZZP. Some of them are on this Forum. Even more on others. Whether this is your true attitude reflected in your posts or not, it'* a turn-off to many the way you post.

Danthurs, please feel free to start another topic if you need it.

Zooomer, feel free to PM me if you have any issues. Or another phone call. Your choice.
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