Damn, C&D LIKED it. THey like the interior even. Apperantly Caddilac is finally trying!

suprise suprise, i thought c&d were a bunch of ****'* for awhile

Now hopefully it won't be long before they pull off the STS shell and put on a beautiful GXP top. Then Pontiac will DEFINATELY be "building excitement"!!!

Sigma architecture > all right now

Its pretty hawt, and its different for GM.

They liked it because it was about as good of a driver as the new 5 series, but didn't have all the electronic **** like the new ones, more like a 99 5 series.

Frankly a huge caddy that turns, goes fast and is appointed like this one is, is amazing.

There are manumatic gear changing, you can order your Final drive ratio, it'* one of the most optioned cars ever. Not just the toys, but different levels, like the final drive. The tranny itself? A 5L-xx (i forget which one). But the 5L is for 5 forward gears.

As tested it was 62k though. No key though, just a fob in your pocket and push a buton or remote start it. They said muscle is back with this car too. With the upgraded Northstar i bet it is, can't wait to see a SC'ed model.

Theres definitely a lot of cool features and should provide the competitve edge against Euro imports, like the E-class Mercedes and the 5 from BMW.

The tranny is called the 5L50, and rated the "best that GM has ever made"

We'll wait for the release of these vehicles before we can accurately judge the "best".

My mom just bought one of these 2 weeks ago, After a couple of days of haggling they will come off that exorbitant 62k sticker a little (she got them down about $2500). I think the big price difference in these cars are the different packages. There is a 1SE 1SF and 1SG package. She opted for the 1SG which is the Performance Luxury Package but there are still individual options on top of that - her color choice was Redline with Cashmere interior. I have to say that it has a very smooth powerband and that Northstar winds to the sky compared to my LS1 in my Ram Air. As far as the new 5L50 it gets high marks in the torque handling department but we'll see how it holds up. The new voice activated, navigation, 15 speaker Bose, heated/cooled seats, Intellibeam, Rainsense, HID'* -- I think its still a 'gadgety' car (like the keyless start, and remote start)but fortunately they didn't ruin it with something like BMW'* idrive (uggh!) So far im impressed.. Im only 25 and I enjoy driving it (when she lets me). She also has the 3.42 gear, 17" brakes and ZF steering gear. - I also had the pleasure of taking an '05 CTS-V (the six speed 400hp LS6 car) for a spin around town while the salesman gave my mom a tour of the dealership, service etc. Needless to say if I had the 60k my mom forked over I would be driving one of those! Its 2x as much fun as my Ram Air to drive and had some awesome stopping power (6k in Brembo brakes should do the trick)... But then again I still appreciate having the SSEi as the daily driver

Woah, C&D liked it. Did they mistake it for a European car or something?

more than likely

I rode in a loaded V6 with all the toys. It had good power for the size from the V6. I love the seats and the ride of that car!!