I love pioneer headunits, don't get me wrong, but one thing that drives me NUTS about it is the fact that when you use a steering wheelc ontrol interface, or the remote control every button you push makes a "beep" sound from the cd player. For every 1 adjustment of the volume even it beeps. Drives me nuts! There is no way to turn it off either. So, as I shop for a new cd player does anyone have any suggestions of a great cd player that doesn't do this? I'd also like 4 volt pre-outs, front/rear/subwoofer pre-outs, organic display, cdrw/AAC/MP3/XM, etc.

The beeping with every button press just makes a cd player seem 'cheap' to me. :?

My RF doesn't beep. But it'* red backlit... Silver face.

You might want to look at alpine or clarion. Much nicer units, great features, and great value.

Eclipse might not be a bad brand to check out either. I am assuming they still make good quality stuff. If you are looking to save some money, you can check out EBay. Just buy from a reputable seller.

all mentined are great, and my RF is also great, but they dont make HU'* anymore

I like my Kenwood, MP628 I think. Some cool features, plenty of neat stuff...dunno bout organic display.

The only RF worth mentioning with Eclipse is the one Denon made for them, which is out of production...

A watt is a watt no matter what brand it comes from, however not all brands output their claimed wattage. Assuming EQ'* and loudness are off, all decks will sound the same. Choose based on the features you need and want.

I'd say for the average person, stick with Alpine and Clarion, unless u find a great deal, or have a specific need or look. Both brands are full featured, top notch setups, Eclipse is similar, but has stuff like 8v pre-outs standard etc.

internal amplification in my case is optional. I don't really need an internal amp because my entire system is externally amplified.

My bad...sorry...Mach 5 does that to ya

Clarion makes some lovely preout only decks..