Standby... Just doing some reading...

Okay, just went browsing through the online manual for this product.

First, do you have a fuse in your positive line and have you checked to ensure it'* good? If possible, measure the voltage with a meter, or use a test light right at the power connections on the amp itself.

I assume you are referring the the blue 'Power' LED not being illuminated? It states right in the manual "Be sure Turn-On lead is connected". This is in the troubleshooting section and suggests to me that you do need to have a 12V signal here.

yeah there is a fuse there and we checked it a couple times to make sure it was good and yeah it looked fine...and yes the power button is not illuminted... what could be wrong with the voltage?

what do you mean "turn on lead" and just remember in the middle of all this we hooked it up to his car...using his current wiring he has...and it worked fine

BTW how do you get an online manual?

You can't check a fuse by looking at it. If it'* blown, you will probably see it but there have been a number of cases I've seen where a fuse looked good but measured no continuity.

Try removing the fuse and measuring it with an ohm meter to ensure it'* good. Also, you can try another KNOWN good fuse.

Do you have a volt meter or 12V test light? Measure the voltage right at the 'BATT' and 'GND' terminals on the side of the amp. Alternatively, connect a test light across those two terminals and make sure it illuminates.

There is no point in diagnosing a further problem until we establish there is actually power getting to the amp.

I went to the manufacturers website.

if it was really a bad fuse tho would you hear a shock noise when you plug the power into the amp?

No, you shouldn't.

Here'* what I would do...

Measure the voltage on the terminals AT THE AMP to make sure you have somewhere in the range of about 12.9 - 14.0 volts. If you don't, either there is a poor connection or your battery has run down. You may (and with adequate ventilation) want to run the car to ensure you have adequate power. Always keep it in PARK with the park brake set.

Then, if there is adequate voltage on those terminals I would connect the 'REM' terminal to the 'BATT' terminal with a fused wire and see if the POWER LED illuminates. 1 - 2 amp fuse size should be adequate.

I understand what you said about connecting in your friends car, but I only have the manufacturers manual to go by. As I said before, it states this must be connected or the POWER LED won't illuminate.

what exactly do you mean....you mean connect the remote and the (positive) wire running from the battery to your amp?