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Old 10-07-2005, 04:04 PM
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Hi,

i tought it should be a great idea to show new members or members that was wondering at what exactly is a Intermediate shaft problem and what is the exact sound.

If you encounter something similar that i show in the next video, its because you have a bad Intermediate shaft.

2 solutions are offered to you:

--- Grease the intermediate shaft (temporary solution)
May be someone who know exactly how can chime in, but many shop can do it for cheap. you can do it like 2-3 time (i grease mine 2 time but now the grease seem to have no or small effect.

OR
----Replace the Intermediate shaft
Replace the Intermediate shaft will 100% correct the problem, can be done in many shop
(GM sold the part 227$ canadian+ 1 hour labour = close to 400$ includind taxes)
BUT.. may be it can be done home, like i said earlier , somebody can chime in with that info.


( sorry, on the vid you will also ear my hand on steering but the shaft sound is clear)

ok, here is how a bad Intermediate shaft should sound: (new link)

http://www.zippyvideos.com/514136597...ateshaftsound/


Mike



(note to admin: sorry if its in the wrong forum , i dont know if it apply to older bonneville,
you can make it sticky if you think its a good info, i think it can save space , i see members ask that shaft problem question like once a week , )
Old 10-07-2005, 04:28 PM
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Yeah Mike, that sounds pretty bad in there. I haven't noticed any noise yet coming from this one. Thanks for the info.
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Replace the Intermediate shaft will 100% correct the problem
Well, maybe 99.99% or the time. I bought the "new and improved" intermediate shaft and installed it maybe a year and a half ago. Now that the weather is cool, guess what'* starting to make an appearance? I think I'll be trying the lube thing this time...save some money, if that'* all the longer it'* going to last. Don't know how....I'll find out once I start digging into it...I hope. :o
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Originally Posted by Archon
Well, maybe 99.99% or the time. I bought the "new and improved" intermediate shaft and installed it maybe a year and a half ago. Now that the weather is cool, guess what'* starting to make an appearance? I think I'll be trying the lube thing this time...save some money, if that'* all the longer it'* going to last. Don't know how....I'll find out once I start digging into it...I hope. :o
sad to ear Archon, i hope mine will last.
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Yeah, me too. As the new one looked just like the old one...I couldn't at the time (and more so now) wonder if they hadn't just put an old one in a box with a new part nuimber attached. However, I don't know if there was enough of a change to be able to tell by just looking at it.
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Nice going on the video. Allow me to add to the confusion. I purchase my '01 SSEi a year ago this past February. Had 28K on the clock. No steering wheel problems until 38K (wouldn't you know). I've lived with a similar "round wooden peg turning in a round wooden hole" feeling and sound since that time (scrunch sound). About 1 month ago I decide to lube the shaft. Everything went well (really packed her down with silicon high-temp bearing grease). Funny thing was everything seemed pretty free. I could slide the shaft in and out, and the knuckle seems to be smooth too. Put her all back together with no problem. After that the sound and feel was about 20% of what it was before the lube. The scrunch turned into a mild creek. A couple of weeks ago I stopped into the dealer to check on a leaking water seal recall I thought pertained to my car (it did not). In the process he checked all prior maintenance on his computer and surprise.......... the intermediate shaft had been replaced under warranty at 26K, 2k before I bound it!!!

Now where do I go? New intermediate shaft lasted 2K and greasing did not totally remove the creeking sound/feel. Now that its getting cold here in Ohio the creeking is evolving into a SCRUNCHING again. Go figure.
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... "bound it"???? My bad. That should read, "bought it". Also, when I stated that the shaft and knuckle seemed smooth with no binding that was even BEFORE I lubed it.
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great video guys... ive been lucky with mine so far... hopefully i wont have any problems with it.. i have enough problems with my windows right now
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Well, i ask to dealer here and they dont seem to know if this problem is solved on a new replacement shaft, they even seem to know nothing at all.

Im just hoping that i will be ok for a long time with the next one.




Im happy if the video can help in anyway BC members to diagnostic what is a bad intermediate shaft.

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Just had mine replaced at the dealer. Have my car in for a massive water leak. I have a thread about it hear.


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