180 T-stat during winter?
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180 T-stat during winter?
First of all, is a bone stock 2000 SE (minus a K&N) going to benefit from a 180 T-stat performance wise or is this just a precautionary thing due to the cracked intake issue I've seen? I'm not aware of how prevelant the intake problem is actually. Please enlighten me.
Secondly, is there going to be a noticeable difference in warm-up times in the cabin during cold Missouri winters with a 180? Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I'm not looking for any performance per say, but if it will increase the longevity of my engine, I'm all for it. I engage in "spirited" driving from time to time so I suppose it may not be a bad idea, eh?
If I decide to go this route, do I need the gasket too?
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Secondly, is there going to be a noticeable difference in warm-up times in the cabin during cold Missouri winters with a 180? Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I'm not looking for any performance per say, but if it will increase the longevity of my engine, I'm all for it. I engage in "spirited" driving from time to time so I suppose it may not be a bad idea, eh?
If I decide to go this route, do I need the gasket too?
Thanks.
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The thermostat prevents significant flow to the radiator until the design temperature, so it should not take any longer for the engine to warm up with the 180, it just won't get as hot or run as hot. But, because the coolant has to heat up other cold parts and displace cold coolant, in effect, cooler water will result in longer warm-up times for the heater core. But, we are only talking about 12 -15*F difference here, and you will probably not notice a significant difference.
The upper intake manifold burn-through is an engine-destroying problem for the non-supercharged 3800 engines built from '95 to '03. Models built after '99 take a little longer to fail, but they too will fail. It is just a matter of time. Lower intake manifold gasket failure is also a major concern for 3800 owners. Please read the techinfo article: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=38
A drilled 180 thermostat is a good idea. You will need the rubber gasket that fits around the flange and maybe a paper gasket, too. $10 should get you where you need to go.
The upper intake manifold burn-through is an engine-destroying problem for the non-supercharged 3800 engines built from '95 to '03. Models built after '99 take a little longer to fail, but they too will fail. It is just a matter of time. Lower intake manifold gasket failure is also a major concern for 3800 owners. Please read the techinfo article: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=38
A drilled 180 thermostat is a good idea. You will need the rubber gasket that fits around the flange and maybe a paper gasket, too. $10 should get you where you need to go.
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Any reason to get the Intense thermostat over a parts house if I don't have any mods? I know all about the lower intake gasket failures. Been there, done that.
What about the heat shield idea I read about from the link you sent me? That sounds like the way to go.
What about the heat shield idea I read about from the link you sent me? That sounds like the way to go.
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Originally Posted by harrydunn
Any reason to get the Intense therostat over a parts house if I don't have any mods? I know all about the lower intake gasket failures. Been there, done that.
What about the heat shield idea I read about from the link you sent me? That sounds like the way to go.
What about the heat shield idea I read about from the link you sent me? That sounds like the way to go.
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Originally Posted by harrydunn
What about the heat shield idea I read about from the link you sent me? That sounds like the way to go.
After that, all that remains is to monitor coolant level, and maybe every couple years clean the throttle body and the gap between the stovepipe and the shield.
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Picked up a 180 this evening and the feller behind the counter said a 180 would mess up the computer. I told him I thought the 160 may but not the 180. Fill me in.
Also, how does one go about drilling their tstat? What is the purpose of this?
Thanks.
Also, how does one go about drilling their tstat? What is the purpose of this?
Thanks.
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180 thermostat will not mess up the computer. Drill a 1/16" or 3/32" hole in the flange (install the rubber gasket before drilling and get close to, but not touching, the gasket). The hole provides a means for air to escape from the engine. Please read the Techinfo article on coolant filling. http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...=article&k=100
Please try the search feature to read about these things. There is a lot of information in the archives.
Please try the search feature to read about these things. There is a lot of information in the archives.
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Originally Posted by harrydunn
Picked up a 180 this evening and the feller behind the counter said a 180 would mess up the computer. I told him I thought the 160 may but not the 180. Fill me in.
Also, how does one go about drilling their tstat? What is the purpose of this?
Thanks.
Also, how does one go about drilling their tstat? What is the purpose of this?
Thanks.