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Old 11-24-2004, 09:59 PM
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as i posted recently on another thread, look at the pirelli p zero nero m/* tires at tire rack. they are real good, however, i don't know if they come in the size you are looking for or not. the mich pilots are real nice too, a bit pricey, but nice. Too bad they are not the size you are looking for.
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They are BRIDGESTONE...not BFG. I've thiink I've corrected you twice now on those, and I think someone else has too.
My Bad.
If I was corrected before, I truly missed it.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by kevo
as i posted recently on another thread, look at the pirelli p zero nero m/* tires at tire rack. they are real good, however, i don't know if they come in the size you are looking for or not. the mich pilots are real nice too, a bit pricey, but nice. Too bad they are not the size you are looking for.
the zeroneros cost more $$$!!!!
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Take a look at the Toyo Proxes also.
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There are a lot of good recommendations here.

However, the one thing that everyone has neglected to ask first is what you want to get out of your tires.
Do you want extreme performance in wet/dry (read summer only)?
Do you want a good performance all season tire?
or Do you want a good all around tire that will last 50k miles?

I ask all of these questions because they all have relevance to your inquiry. Summer only tires are just that. Put them in snow/slush/ice and they will go nowhere. The high performance all season tires, although very good in all of the different road conditions, tend to wear faster than a performance all season or even just a regular touring all season tire. The best bang for the buck all season would be a performance all season (not high-performance all season) because they offer a good comprimise between performance and wear.

On my old car ('94 Intrepid ES), I ran Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Symetricals in 225/60R16 (not available in 235/55R17) and it had a rating of Ultra High Performance All Season. These tires performed GREAT in all weather conditions and believe me, I put them to the test with my 100 mile/day commute in Western NY. My only gripe about these tires was that they only lasted me 1.5 years and towards the end of their life, they started to wear funny dispite my efforts at keeping proper air pressure and rotating the tires every oil change.

I'm just trying to get a feel for what you want in a tire. If you aren't going to be carving some back country canyon road all the time, then you really don't need a really sticky tire that will wear out quickly. There are tires to fit everyones needs, you should determine what you want the tire to do, before you decide on any particular one.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by SSsuperchargedEi
Originally Posted by kevo
as i posted recently on another thread, look at the pirelli p zero nero m/* tires at tire rack. they are real good, however, i don't know if they come in the size you are looking for or not. the mich pilots are real nice too, a bit pricey, but nice. Too bad they are not the size you are looking for.
the zeroneros cost more $$$!!!!
Really? By which site are you getting your pricing? I'll post the links to both tires direct from tirerack and look for yourself...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
mich'* 194 bucks

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
pirelli'* 128 bucks

The reason I like these Pirellis is that not only do they handle well, but they are pretty darn good in the snow. Not like a snow tire, but a good all season ultra performance tire.

The only way I see someone paying more for the p zeros is if the store you go to doesn't carry them and you need to special order them.


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Even as sticky as the Bridgestone Potenza'* Ultra High Performance tires are, they have a tread wear rating of 340 compared to my OEM RSA'* that had a much lower rating. 240 I think, correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't have them anymore......good riddance. :P
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Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet
Even as sticky as the Bridgestone Potenza'* Ultra High Performance tires are, they have a tread wear rating of 340 compared to my OEM RSA'* that had a much lower rating. 240 I think, correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't have them anymore......good riddance. :P
lol I hear ya buddy. I still have my stock RSAs on. I have put 46k miles on them and I think I'll be fine until next fall. I'm a bit skeptical going through this winter with them, but I should be okay....

Funny thing is that some people had theirs wear out after 20k and others like me are gonna get 50k or more out of them.

I have been window shopping for my next set, which is how I came up with the desire to get the Pirelli P Zero Neros. But first, this year I wanted to get my wife'* car done first. We're gonna get her the new Goodyear Assurance tires, the top tier ones. They are supposed to be real good.... better than the Regatta 2s which were my origional plan for her car.

Here is the Regatta 2
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

Here is the Assurance triple tread
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
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Wow those Goodyear Assurance Tires sure have a high ratings, better than my Bridgestones....even if they don't come in 17" sizes or speed ratings above H.

My RSA'* were toast after 30,000 kilometers....no doubt due to my lead foot.


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