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Old 08-10-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennginn
pads are cermaic Part # CMX7384A $70
Calipers are 31.49 each with a 55.00 core charge part #2422202 and 2422203
rotors are 31.99 each 4886631
all available at my napa store
Great Info.. so from Napa $200 will get you premium equipment. And I would assume that the mechanic you went to was only changing one caliper. Ceramic pads are expensive... you could get lifetime pads for about $25-30 at most. Dropping total price to $170ish.

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Originally Posted by BillBoost37
Originally Posted by Kennginn
pads are cermaic Part # CMX7384A $70
Calipers are 31.49 each with a 55.00 core charge part #2422202 and 2422203
rotors are 31.99 each 4886631
all available at my napa store
Great Info.. so from Napa $200 will get you premium equipment. And I would assume that the mechanic you went to was only changing one caliper. Ceramic pads are expensive... you could get lifetime pads for about $25-30 at most. Dropping total price to $170ish.

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nope wish i did though
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Which brand has the best history for long riding over 70mph driving

back and forth?

Rotors:

Wearever YH145250
Front; Disc Only
1 Year Replacement Warranty

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Weight: 17.1 lbs.
$27.97

Bendix 145250
Front; Disc Only
1 Year Replacement Warranty

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 12 lbs.
$69.88


Raybestos 56631RGS
Disc Brake Rotor: Aimco-Gs; Front; Rotor Only
3 Month Limited Warranty

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 17.8 lbs.
$44.99


Raybestos 56631
Front Brake Rotor: PG Plus; Front; Rotor Only
3 Month Limited Warranty

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 17.5 lbs.
$65.99


Raybestos 1056631
Brake Rotor: Raymold
1 Year Limited Warranty

Ships in 3 days
Weight: 11 lbs.
$51.99

Raybestos BR56631L
Brutestop: Front; Left; Rotor Only
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 10 lbs.
$122.99


Raybestos BR56631R
Brutestop: Front; Right; Rotor Only
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 10 lbs.
$122.99



Calipers:

Cardone 164601
Reman.; Loaded; Right; OE Metal Piston
Lifetime Limited Warranty

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Weight: 14.4 lbs.
$53.97
$40.00 core

Cardone 184600
Reman.; Unloaded; Left; OE Metal Piston
Lifetime Limited Warranty

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Weight: 12.5 lbs.
$43.48
$50.00 core


Bendix R55744
Caliper: Front-Right
1 Year Limited Warranty

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 8 lbs.
$40.99
$50.00 core


Bendix L55744M
Caliper: Front-Right
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 9 lbs.
$83.99
$35.00 core

Raybestos FRC10495
Semi-Loaded Left Caliper Assembly: Friction Ready Caliper; Front
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 9 lbs.
$40.99
$30.00 core

Raybestos RWC50396
Unloaded Right Caliper Assembly:
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 9 lbs.
$56.99
$50.00 core


Raybestos RC10495
Loaded Left Caliper Assembly: Front; Contains Pg Premium Disc Pads
Lifetime Limited Warranty

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Weight: 14.6 lbs.
$72.99
$45.00 core


Brake pads:

Bendix D623CT
Ceramic Pads; Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
Lifetime Replacement Warranty

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Weight: 5 lbs.
$61.88


Wearever Gold MKD623
Pads; Premium; Application Specific Friction; Semi-Metallic
Lifetime Replacement Warranty

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Weight: 5.9 lbs.
$29.48


Friction Master CMX623
Ceramic Brake Pad
2 Year Replacement Warranty

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Weight: 5.5 lbs.
$44.88


Akebono ACT623
Proact Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad: Front
1 Year Limited Warranty

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Weight: 2 lbs.
$69.99

Performance Friction 062320
Carbon-Metallic Street Pad: Front; Disc/Drum
Limited Lifetime - Special Limitations

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 6.2 lbs.
$52.99


Raybestos PGD623QS
Disc Brake Pad: Quietstop; Super Premium Ceramic; Vehicle Originally

Equipped With Semi-Metallic Material; Front
Limited Lifetime - Special Limitations

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Weight: 5.7 lbs.
$62.99


Raybestos BD623M
Disc Brake Pad: Brutestop; Performance Semi-Metallic; Vehicle

Originally Equipped With Semi-Metallic Material; Recommended

Replacement; Front
Limited Lifetime - Special Limitations

Ships in 3 days
Weight: 5 lbs.
$64.99


Raybestos SSD623
Disc Brake Pad: Superstop; Severe Duty; Vehicle Originally Equipped

With Semi-Metallic Material; Front
Limited Lifetime - Special Limitations

Ships in 1 day
Weight: 6.1 lbs.
$41.99


If I'm going to install this I should know from you guys. Thank you for your opinion...
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Do you have "fix-a-flat" in any of your tires? If so, then that is likely your problem. If not, then have you run your tires very low? If so, you may have internally "chewed" your tire which causes the rubber on the inside to "rub" off. Over time and high speed these small particles will actually collide with one another and join. This makes a bigger and heavier "ball".

The cycle continues until the "ball or balls" are so heavy that they throw the balance off.

This can not be corrected with a balance because the balls are always rolling.

Take off each tire and spin it by hand and listen for "rubber marbles" inside the tire.
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I replaced the calipers, pads and rotors. I went around the block to test- 30mph firm braking 3 times like the book says. Then I went to a highway and tested for 70mph-80mph, and the bibration was minor but still there came and went. I believe whatever it is caused the caliper to break ( which it was the right one) and warp the rotor. So I put ceramic pads and performance calipers from NAPA Autoparts, and rotors as well. I guessing that over time they will break if I don't fix the problem... Any guess please.

Front Shocks???

I'll take ti to the tire place for a tire balancing and the manager offered a radio balancing...which is under guarantee.

Will see.

P.*.
I'll check for some marbles or balls rolling then.

In a way I fill very happy that I was able to change the rotors, pads and calipers of my Bonnie.

Thanx to all
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How did your mechanic determine your right side caliper was not releasing in the first place?
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Originally Posted by miles26
70mph-80mph
Well there'* your problem...your driving too fast!

Something is out of ballance. If it'* not the wheels and tires, the it must be the axles or rotors.

That is of corse if it is in the front end....Maybe the rear end is out of ballance?
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How old are your tires? Most of the time vibration is tire related (out of balance, out of round, bent rim).
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It could aslo be bubbles on the tires. My bro had that problem on his 02 stratus
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If you can find a shop that can do a spin balance with your tires on the car, they may be able to troubleshoot that vibration in their shop. I know they can run it at highway speeds by putting the tires on drums and firing it up. If they see the vibration, they will then try it without the tires. Then without the brakes. Process of elimination will eventually determine what is at fault. I had a simialr vibration a while ago and every tire shop that I took it to said it was tire balance. I am fairly confident wtih a wrench and like to think that I know what a warped rotor feels like. The good old boy that did this for me finally figured out that it was my performance rotors. He couldn;t believe it either. Just didn;t feel like a warped rotor. Anyway, he only charged about $60 for all that troubleshooting. The key is finding someone with the right equipment and patience.

BTW, did you clean and grease the caliper pins? Not sure if your year has disk or drum on the rear, but an out of round rear drum can also cause a vibration, but you feel it in your seat rather than steering wheel. You may have fixed the major vibration and have another minor one.

Good luck!


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