can't figure it out
03-22-2006, 10:58 PM
#1
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
can't figure it out
I have read all through the forums, searched, and still seem to not have an answer.
I have a 94 SE bonneville, and it won't start. The security light comes on when i turn the key to crank it, and goes off when I remove the key. The fuel pump engages and there is no sound when turning the key.
At first I was thinking VATS, but now maybe ignition switch. Can someone please help??
And also, I saw threads about bypassing the VATS system by cutting a couple of wires and soldering in the right ohm resistor....where are these wires and what color are they?
I have a 94 SE bonneville, and it won't start. The security light comes on when i turn the key to crank it, and goes off when I remove the key. The fuel pump engages and there is no sound when turning the key.
At first I was thinking VATS, but now maybe ignition switch. Can someone please help??
And also, I saw threads about bypassing the VATS system by cutting a couple of wires and soldering in the right ohm resistor....where are these wires and what color are they?
03-22-2006, 11:14 PM
#2
Guest
Posts: n/a
well, before you try all that...
do you have a remote start unit? if so, they may have put in a bad resister chip (happened to me, they fixed it very quick and easily)
Try cleaning the ingition first, dirty resistors will sometimes cause problems. i think that there is a tech info article on this. it was suggested to me if the remote start thing wasn't it.
there is a way to do the bypass, but you will be without the security system then. someone who'* done that probilby will chime in soon
Good luck to you!
do you have a remote start unit? if so, they may have put in a bad resister chip (happened to me, they fixed it very quick and easily)
Try cleaning the ingition first, dirty resistors will sometimes cause problems. i think that there is a tech info article on this. it was suggested to me if the remote start thing wasn't it.
there is a way to do the bypass, but you will be without the security system then. someone who'* done that probilby will chime in soon
Good luck to you!
03-23-2006, 07:57 AM
#3
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
someone who'* done that probilby will chime in soon
http://www.12vp.com/info_resistors.htm
I got the resistor at Radio shack. $1 for a pack of 5.
03-23-2006, 08:05 AM
#4
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS
Expert Gearhead
You mention your security light coming on and staying on until you remove the key. The security light should be blinking. If it'* on solid, then VATs is a likely suspect.
03-23-2006, 08:41 AM
#6
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS
Expert Gearhead
Could be, however we would need to understand what the security light is doing before you consider the starter.
It sounds more like a VATs issue.
It sounds more like a VATs issue.
03-23-2006, 02:26 PM
#7
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I tried again today....
Put the key in, turned to to start, security light comes on and stays solid, as soon as i take the key ouf ot the start position and remove it from the ignition the security light goes off.
I think i am going to try to remove the starter and have autozone test it.
There is no noise when i start, just the fuel pump priming and the care display on the console has the parking brake light on.
Put the key in, turned to to start, security light comes on and stays solid, as soon as i take the key ouf ot the start position and remove it from the ignition the security light goes off.
I think i am going to try to remove the starter and have autozone test it.
There is no noise when i start, just the fuel pump priming and the care display on the console has the parking brake light on.
03-23-2006, 02:34 PM
#8
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: May 2005
Location: _Phoenix, AZ_ _WCBF '05, '06, '07 Survivor_ ____NEBF '07 Remnant___
Posts: 3,448
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
This test is for a '97, but I assume it will work for a 94
We need to know exactly what the security light is doing before we can rule out the VATS
System Check procedures -
To begin:
1. Put ignition switch in RUN position (engine NOT running)
2. Close front doors
3. Unbuckle seat belts
4. Set park brake off
"SECURITY" indicator should light for approximately five seconds.
The "security" light is supposed to remain illuminated for 5 seconds if the system is operating correctly. If your security light flashes once per second and the engine does not start, it is an indication that the VATS system module has sensed an open, a short, or invalid input from the resistor pellet in the key. if "Security" indicator remains on or does not operate properly, there are a series of other tests that could be run.
Also, has any aftermarket electronic equipment installed recently?
We need to know exactly what the security light is doing before we can rule out the VATS
System Check procedures -
To begin:
1. Put ignition switch in RUN position (engine NOT running)
2. Close front doors
3. Unbuckle seat belts
4. Set park brake off
"SECURITY" indicator should light for approximately five seconds.
The "security" light is supposed to remain illuminated for 5 seconds if the system is operating correctly. If your security light flashes once per second and the engine does not start, it is an indication that the VATS system module has sensed an open, a short, or invalid input from the resistor pellet in the key. if "Security" indicator remains on or does not operate properly, there are a series of other tests that could be run.
Also, has any aftermarket electronic equipment installed recently?
03-23-2006, 03:21 PM
#10
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: May 2005
Location: _Phoenix, AZ_ _WCBF '05, '06, '07 Survivor_ ____NEBF '07 Remnant___
Posts: 3,448
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
Originally Posted by pinionlc
did what you said....turned the key to the start position, the security light stayed on for five seconds, it did not blink once.
When you turn the key, do you here a clicking sound at all in the Dashboard or in the engine compartment?