TAlKED WITH RADIATOR TECHNICIAN ON 180 STAT.
#12
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Originally Posted by willwren
Lower intake temps=better power and less breakdown of oil. I get 29mpg on the freeway at 70mph with my DRILLED 180.
GM has instructions to discourage the use of 180'*. We also have had nobody running 180 have any problems passing emissions.
The 180 is especially important for the 95-99 non-supercharged cars with the failure-prone plastic upper intake. Cooler intake temps may help prevent those problems.
There are literally THOUSANDS of 3800'* out there running the 180 with no problems.
GM has instructions to discourage the use of 180'*. We also have had nobody running 180 have any problems passing emissions.
The 180 is especially important for the 95-99 non-supercharged cars with the failure-prone plastic upper intake. Cooler intake temps may help prevent those problems.
There are literally THOUSANDS of 3800'* out there running the 180 with no problems.
#13
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Originally Posted by Rogue
I just dropped to a 160 for the summer. Still trying to combat some KR so im keeping the engine cooler. I did not have any problems with my 180.
One interesting thing I noticed was that after I got the A/C fixed last summer, the running temperature _dropped_ slightly, and that includes driving through the winter when the compressor obviously was not operating and I assume the cooling fans weren't, either. The termperature gauge is now clearly a notch or two below the center mark (200º on the gauge, if I remember right) most of the time, whereas before, when the A/C was out and the HVAC display would do its two-minute Hey-I've-Got-an-Error-Code blinking every time I started the car, the gauge spent most of its time slightly higher on the scale, creeping well above 200º whenever I sat too long at a stoplight.
So I'm wondering if there'* some input into the ECM that changes its behavior if the Freon is low, or otherwise if the HVAC is reporting a problem, which results in a slightly higher running temperature. I know it doesn't seem like there should be, but my car has definitely been running a little cooler since the A/C was repaired, and the cooling system had not been touched at that time, or since.
#18
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I've got whatever was in there when I bought it (pwner was a car guy, but the wife drove it, so most likely 195). Mine doesn't get above 195. EVER. It could be 95* out, and i'm stuck on 494, and i'm still 195. I may go down to a 180 for the performance build, but other then that, i see no point. If it was that much of a benefit, GM would have done the colder stat from the factory.
#19
Mine too, I don't get that kind of milage, a full tank will only give me 400 at most. I have the 195 on my 1993.
Hey JR! My Trip Odometer is dead, If press to reset I can see the numbers moving a little bit , it is in 000 and they won't move doesn' matter how long or how fast I drive.
Any idea how to repair this? Is the Trip Odometer connected to a cable or something?
Hey JR! My Trip Odometer is dead, If press to reset I can see the numbers moving a little bit , it is in 000 and they won't move doesn' matter how long or how fast I drive.
Any idea how to repair this? Is the Trip Odometer connected to a cable or something?
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Originally Posted by acg_ssei
One interesting thing I noticed was that after I got the A/C fixed last summer, the running temperature _dropped_ slightly, and that includes driving through the winter when the compressor obviously was not operating and I assume the cooling fans weren't, either.
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