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Old 02-12-2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by toadster123
My dad said that it was spewing oil... so i dont think it was just accumulated oil
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here is a pic of the damage from teh accident - http://www.patmedia.net/daveoskin1/bonny.jpg
You're going to need to identify that fluid, although all indications are that it'* trans fluid, not oil, judging from your photos of the damage and your description of where it'* leaking from. See if you can catch some on a white paper towel and see what color it really is. If it'* trans fluid, it won't be fatal for the car, but you're not going to be very mobile until you can stop the leak.

So this car hasn't been driven since it got bopped in the nose; is that right?
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It has been driven, for a couple weeks... so i am not sure if the accident caused the problem...

The car is at the local sunoco shop... so they are probably going to fix it (My dad owns the car right now... so he is going to do it the way he wants )

I will see what happens, but the shop is suppose to call be4 doing any work... so they may or may not be fixing it.

I will let you know when i hear whats going on.... i am hoping my dad doesnt want to junk it... the accident didnt really do any mechanical damage besides bending the a/c cond. from what i can see.... but i will find out soon enough
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Originally Posted by toadster123
I will let you know when i hear whats going on.... i am hoping my dad doesnt want to junk it... the accident didnt really do any mechanical damage besides bending the a/c cond. from what i can see.... but i will find out soon enough
Junking it would make no sense, financially or otherwise. If he wants to sell it as-is, you're most likely to find an interested buyer through this forum; if he wants to sell it after he'* fixed it, he'll at least be able to sell a running, roadworthy (more or less ) car for way more than he would get from a junkyard.
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Yea, exactly... i completely agree with you.
It really isnt in that bad of condition (besides the recent body damage)
My dad already put alot of money into it (new belt, radiator, other small fixes)

I am probably going to try and fix the major body pieces that are messed up myself (with pieces from the junkyard)

And i might even have a body shop paint the new pieces so they look almost identical (depending on how much it costs)
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Originally Posted by toadster123
I am probably going to try and fix the major body pieces that are messed up myself (with pieces from the junkyard)

And i might even have a body shop paint the new pieces so they look almost identical (depending on how much it costs)
Actually, a little shopping around should eventually turn up a junkyard donor that'* the same color as yours, and you won't have to paint anything. You have a range of years to pick from that use the same hood and bumper -- something like 1992-1996 (?) or thereabouts; somebody here will know for sure. The grilles vary from one year to another but are bolt-in interchangeable within that range of years that includes your car, so pick whichever grille you like the most.

(At this point we're no longer talking Audio (and aftermarket electronics), so if somebody wants to relocate this to a better forum, be my guest... )
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yea, thats probably a better idea , i think the years are 92-95...

Im curious tho, what if i found a SSE or SSEi??? i think the grill is the same (at least i think it will bolt on the same)... but what about the bumper cover???

Just in case i find .. say... a white (92-95) SSE....
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Originally Posted by toadster123
yea, thats probably a better idea , i think the years are 92-95...

Im curious tho, what if i found a SSE or SSEi??? i think the grill is the same (at least i think it will bolt on the same)... but what about the bumper cover???

Just in case i find .. say... a white (92-95) SSE....
Yes, I think it should bolt on, but there may be some differences in profile on the side cladding around the front of the wheel openings, which won't match the cladding down the sides of the car on the lower doors. (I can't picture an SE next to an SSE right now and this morning'* coffee hasn't soaked in yet.) I know my white SSEi has a black stripe that runs around the whole perimeter beltline, including across the front bumper cover (it helps the black headlamp washer nozzles to blend in), and I don't think SEs have that stripe on their side cladding.

Oh, yeah, come to think of it, that SSE/SSEi bumper cover will probably have headlamp washers in it!

You won't have the switchgear and plumbing for those washers on your SE (it requires a different control paddle on the turn-signal lever ), although you might be able to improvise a Tee fitting to plumb it into your windshield washers to just squirt everything at the same time.

Biggest difference will be in the position of the foglights, which will get relocated from where foglights are supposed to be, as the SE has them, to where _driving_ lights should really be, where the SSE has them.

If you're upgrading from SE to SSE, I think you'll need to get the supporting structure for the bumper cover, not just the cover itself, but I imagine the junkyard will want to sell only the whole assembly anyway, so that decision will have been made for you...
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Alright, yea i understand what your saying...

I think it will be easier for me to just use a SE bumper
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Well, actually i wont be fixing it at all....

My dad had the local sunoco shop take out the alarm system...

So now we are going to take it to a junkyard or donate it...

If anyone is interested in a running white '92 bonny let me know...
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Originally Posted by toadster123
So now we are going to take it to a junkyard or donate it...
Oh, for God'* sake, give it a wash and park it in a corner of the local supermarket parking lot on Saturday afternoon with a For Sale sign in the window, ask $500 and you'll have it sold by 5:00. I also once sold a Grand Prix in one afternoon by arranging with the local gas station to ask whatever price they wanted, and they would get to keep however much _over_ $700 they could get for it.

Really, you are making this way too hard on yourself.


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