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Old 10-01-2002, 10:42 PM
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Well.. if you can afford an engine change ( and donate your other engine to Drifter Enterprise.. Warp necell technologies.. hee hee... ) then by all means I would recommend that. The rat is right about needing all that stuff.. but if you have the time and tools ( namely a cherry picker ), it should be somewhat easier than mounting a northstar, or warp necell, or rocket boosters ( wonders what brainiac started that one ), since most of the mounts are the same. The L67 engine ( the */C'd engine ) has a lot more better stuff then their N/A counterparts ( L37 series II ). They have a dished head ( for less compression because of the force induction ) stronger rods, ( and appears to be roller rockers in mine ( throught oil cap ).. have to open it up sometime in Spring to make sure )and all around tougher engine. the 4T65 E tranny that comes with */C'd engine ( from 97 up ) is beefier than the standard 4t60 E tranny. If you have good connections to junkyards or shops that can get this.. I would opt for the engine swap minus the intake plenum with */C.. get a normal intake plenum and custom make a Vortech */C to fit on it. Of course, if you have more time however.. pick up an engine block and leave it on a hoist.. slowly rebuilt the thing with stronger parts available out there.. There is quite a few E-stores out there that has further strengthened aftermarket part such as pistons; connecting rod; rocker arms; so on and so forth.. it all again depends on how much time and money you have as the Rat says
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I've got the time, the money to do all that would be the problem. But it would be something to think about for the future. For right now I'm just going to fix the problems it has now (add onto the list new bumpers...new tail light, new air bag sensor...all at the expense of someone who doesn't pay attention. ) and get it running smoothly. After that I'll see from there. Don't want to get too far ahead of myself.
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Want a sob story? I was rear-ended (get your mind out of the gutter, Drifter) in May. I was driving a Buick Roadmaster....guy in a truck was paying attention to his Dalmation, not the road. Plowed into my back end, $9,100 US to the back end. My 12-year old was with me, she was fine, but I ended up having back surgery in June. Might have to have another. Turned the trunk inside-out, impacted the rear doors shut, my baseball hat ended up on the rear deck, and we hit the car in front.....not hard enough for the bags to deploy. Sound familiar?

Yes, I have an Attorney. My medical bills alone are over $35k now. I've been told the average settlement is $50k for a disk injury like I had....time will tell, but the Attorney gets 1/3 first.

The only thing good out of all this is that I bought Bert (my kids named my Bonneville, Ernie was the Roadmaster) with the payoff.
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Ouch! I'm sorry to hear about that. Back injuries are awful. I really hope you get a good settlement. I've got one too. 5 years ago I was coming home from work. I was in the passenger seat of the car (Honda CRX) . A drunk driver crashed into us head on. My seat belt broke and I was thrown under the dash. Both of my arms (in four places), my leg, my back, my pelvis, my ankle, and two ribs were broken...and I had a concussion to boot. I went through 2 surgeries and have 3 plates, 2 rods in various locations. The good thing is that everything healed wonderfully...I have full range of motion....the scars are barely noticable. I'm lucky to be alive, I saw pics of the car. Plus I got a great settlement because I was about to drop off the store'* bank deposit for the night. The company paid all my medical bills. Now I have a car I feel safe in and I love it dearly!
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Well Amy.. a new engine and tranny ( rebuilt ) is only less then 5K depending on where you go.. so.. some food for thought.. and I would try to get as much fixed because of this accident coverage then it caused...

Will... 50K settlement minus 1/3 to mess up your disk ?? Wow... too high of a price to pay for the freedom of not having a screwed up back.. :( . I too feel your pain ( literally sometime.. and hush people.. not one of them sicko male bonding thing.. Damm hippies.. hee hee ). I was involved in a motor cycle incident a few years back having some OLD ( no offence Rat ) Lady ( no offence Amy or Tamara ) in some big a$$ tank of a car rear end me in rain when I was waiting to hang a right.. it pushed me into the car in front of me, and they had to pry the bike off my crutch ( shut up you pervertes.... that was a good pair of pants they had to tear.. ha ha ha ).. the bike basically folded on me and messed up my tailbone severely.. instead of it being rounded.. mine looks like a check mark.. it shoots right up... the doctor told me they could try and repair it through surgury.. but me all homo-phobic and all.. told them.. "If I can live ... you're not operating on my ***.. and you're not probing and cutting anywhere near it" and in return.. now I can't enjoy ( and haven't beeen on a bike ) a nice bike ride... wind in the hair... wearing all black leather ( sounds kinky.. hey wait.. there'* only 2 chicks here... stop thinking about it people tee hee... )...bugs in the teeth...
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Originally Posted by Drifter420
Well Amy.. a new engine and tranny ( rebuilt ) is only less then 5K depending on where you go.. so.. some food for thought.. and I would try to get as much fixed because of this accident coverage then it caused...
Awful sorry about your tush. Ignoring the leather thing. I see what you're saying about the accident coverage and all, but where will they draw the line and say "Listen, toots, you only got rearended!" I mean, how much could I really get away with? Not that I'm trying to get away with anything mind you.
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Well.. you could tell them about the stalling situation and say that it occured only after the hit, and you think it'* either a broken wire or a blown sensor ( since Tamara believes that it'* the oil sensor ). You obviously can't get your steering column fix though since it is no where near or related to the accident.. they can check your engine throughly and tell you what'* wrong since his insurance is paying for that, and just keep stating that the problem only occured after the hit, and the force must have transferred over. Has the insurance adjuster seen your car ?? Or the shop ?? What else is wrong with your baby ?? We can then maybe give you a better answer on it...

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The insurance adjuster hasn't even called. No one has looked at the poor thing, but I can give you a list of her problems. Okay....There is a HUGE crack in the rear bumper on the passenger side, it goes from the bottom to the top. The rear passenger tail light wiggles pretty badly. The rear license plate is dented in. The tail pipe on the passenger side is mostly broken off. The paint is badly scratched on front and rear bumper. The front bumper is cracked, not nearly as bad as the back though. The front license plate is broken. Needs a wheel alignment desperately. Air bag light is on, guy said it was probably inoperable and needs to be redone. And of course, it stalls.
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Originally Posted by amy_lynn
The insurance adjuster hasn't even called. No one has looked at the poor thing, but I can give you a list of her problems. Okay....There is a HUGE crack in the rear bumper on the passenger side, it goes from the bottom to the top. The rear passenger tail light wiggles pretty badly. The rear license plate is dented in. The tail pipe on the passenger side is mostly broken off. The paint is badly scratched on front and rear bumper. The front bumper is cracked, not nearly as bad as the back though. The front license plate is broken. Needs a wheel alignment desperately. Air bag light is on, guy said it was probably inoperable and needs to be redone. And of course, it stalls.
ok.. the rear passenger light wiggles ?? Depending on what'* wrong they might just replace it.. or you can give it a good enough wack that it cracks the screen and needs to replace the whole tailight assembly ( since you can't just change the lense ).. break the tailpipe off.. as close to the muffler as possible so they would have to give you a new muffler and tips. As for the bumper.. more than likely they will take care of that too ( hopefully they replace it instead of trying to plaster it back together ). For the alignment, air bag, and stall.. just ensure that you keep reminding them.. even if you have to sound like a broken record that all this is caused after the incident.... o.. and if you really want to go a little further.. start complaining about your back and neck.. and that you didn't feel anything wrong during the accident because of the amount of adrenaline in your system... they'll probably tell you to go see a doctor at first.. anywhere he/she touches around your spine, shoulder, and neck ( the doctor ) just remember to say oww.. and it'* tight around there and hard for me to move around.. you'll get pampered for a few complimentary chiropractor appointments, and they'll massage the crap out of you.. or until you fall asleep.. whichever comes first.. and you don't have to pay a cent..
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So I should break the tailpipe off, then hit the tail light with it? Actually, Shane (husband) said he was having some neck pain, so I will be letting them know that he needs to see the doctor...well, whenever they decide to grace us with a phone call. How long does it usually take for them to call people? Oh, and they had better not try to plaster the bumper back together, it'* only being held together by about 2 inches of whatever the bumper is made of. (Fiberglass? Plastic?) Here I am looking like a dumb-butt again. *sigh*


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