NECO Engine Centers- Replacement Engines- Good or bad ?????
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NECO Engine Centers- Replacement Engines- Good or bad ?????
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Need some info/advice- anyone have an engine replacement done by NECO ENGINE
CENTERS? Good/bad results?
My 98 SSE -Engine lost all anti-freeze in overflow tank yesterday-
Went to start the car this morning and it will not turn over- just a slight
attempt to crank and then nothing.(95,500 miles on odometer)
I had the upper and lower manifold gaskets replaced back in Feb of 2004 with 85,000 miles on the car- one year later-and 10,000 miles more- shot? and also the engine?- Hugh amounts of White Smoke coming out of both rear exhaust pipes.
Anyway- having everything checked out this Monday-
If the engine is shot- rather than have it re-built etc I'm considering having a replacement engine put in -
Depending on the outcome Monday-
Options- have existing engine fixed- (if possible)
or- have replacement engine put in
or buy another used or new car- preferrence maybe a used SSEI as they do not have the failed manifold problem.
Thanks for any help.
Chuck
Need some info/advice- anyone have an engine replacement done by NECO ENGINE
CENTERS? Good/bad results?
My 98 SSE -Engine lost all anti-freeze in overflow tank yesterday-
Went to start the car this morning and it will not turn over- just a slight
attempt to crank and then nothing.(95,500 miles on odometer)
I had the upper and lower manifold gaskets replaced back in Feb of 2004 with 85,000 miles on the car- one year later-and 10,000 miles more- shot? and also the engine?- Hugh amounts of White Smoke coming out of both rear exhaust pipes.
Anyway- having everything checked out this Monday-
If the engine is shot- rather than have it re-built etc I'm considering having a replacement engine put in -
Depending on the outcome Monday-
Options- have existing engine fixed- (if possible)
or- have replacement engine put in
or buy another used or new car- preferrence maybe a used SSEI as they do not have the failed manifold problem.
Thanks for any help.
Chuck
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umm... that sounds like your upper failed.
Do you still have the car? Pull a plug, and see what comes out. If coolant comes out, drain your oil immediately, and pull all the plugs and dry out the cylinders [leave the plugs out for a few days].
-justin
Do you still have the car? Pull a plug, and see what comes out. If coolant comes out, drain your oil immediately, and pull all the plugs and dry out the cylinders [leave the plugs out for a few days].
-justin
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You've got to be careful about that justin, you don't want to just let them "dry out" you could rust the cylinder walls then you're screwed and you need a re-bore or at least a hone job. To do it correctly spray penetrating lube in there after the coolant has drained out. It'* easy to get all the coolant out just remove all 6 plugs and spin the motor over a few times. Then hit eash cylinder with lube and let it sit if that'* what you want. You have to make sure though that in trying to crank it with cylinders full of water that you didn't bend any valves.
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definetely sounds like your upper failed to me...ive been there, done that, wish there was a t-shirt....did they replace the upper intake manifold itself? or just the gaskets? im betting it failed though...thats by far the most common problem in the series 2.
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Re:NECO Engine replacement- NOT NECESSARY!!!!
Ok- got the car back today- 98 SSE
History- in Feb 04- replaced upper and lower gaskets- Not the EGR.
Cost was $495.00
Last week- lost all fluid in recovery tank- car blowing out white smoke from exhaust, then would not start.
Problem-Leaking Upper Intake Manifold.
Had done- Manifold- Upper cost- $138.00
Gasket set- Upper- $37.00
Gasket set Lower- $57.30
Oil/& Filter change $24.00
Anti-freeze $18.00
6 New platinum Spark Plugs- $90.00
Total parts $364.30
Labor- $300.- ( 4 Hours)
Tax $ 39.86
* Total Bill $704.16 *
Car appears to be ok. When oil was changed- it was normal- Not milky!
Based on what happened over the past year plus, I guess I should have had everything done the first time around instead of only replacing the gaskets- probably would have saved me in the long run.- Yes? No?
Given the alternatives- I got a price from NECO of around $2,500.00 for a USED
Replacement and $3,500.00 for a New Rebuitl Replacement- plus the price of a decent used SSEI Etc-
I'll go with what I got right now-
Thanks for your responses to my initial question on NECO Etc.
History- in Feb 04- replaced upper and lower gaskets- Not the EGR.
Cost was $495.00
Last week- lost all fluid in recovery tank- car blowing out white smoke from exhaust, then would not start.
Problem-Leaking Upper Intake Manifold.
Had done- Manifold- Upper cost- $138.00
Gasket set- Upper- $37.00
Gasket set Lower- $57.30
Oil/& Filter change $24.00
Anti-freeze $18.00
6 New platinum Spark Plugs- $90.00
Total parts $364.30
Labor- $300.- ( 4 Hours)
Tax $ 39.86
* Total Bill $704.16 *
Car appears to be ok. When oil was changed- it was normal- Not milky!
Based on what happened over the past year plus, I guess I should have had everything done the first time around instead of only replacing the gaskets- probably would have saved me in the long run.- Yes? No?
Given the alternatives- I got a price from NECO of around $2,500.00 for a USED
Replacement and $3,500.00 for a New Rebuitl Replacement- plus the price of a decent used SSEI Etc-
I'll go with what I got right now-
Thanks for your responses to my initial question on NECO Etc.
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iF you don't want spend that much you could always do you self if you mechinicly inclined.. I replace the gaskets on my 92 it took a while 6 hrs. I don't how much harder 98 would be
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Originally Posted by opensourceguy
umm... that sounds like your upper failed.
Do you still have the car? Pull a plug, and see what comes out. If coolant comes out, drain your oil immediately, and pull all the plugs and dry out the cylinders [leave the plugs out for a few days].
-justin
Do you still have the car? Pull a plug, and see what comes out. If coolant comes out, drain your oil immediately, and pull all the plugs and dry out the cylinders [leave the plugs out for a few days].
-justin
Disregard.
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