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Old 06-15-2007, 08:14 AM
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The point being that the crossflow muffler has an inlet and outlet on one side, and an outlet on the other side.

Proper installation requires cutting out the old one and welding in the new one, right? It only takes one more cut and weld in the long curve to make the intermediate pipe fit an F-body muffler. It has to be shortened slightly.

That makes it a direct replacement muffler.
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yup they do stick down.

this is how you have to setup a F-body muffler.



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Old 06-15-2007, 10:01 AM
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That'* totally wrong Bandit. You have your muffler 'upside down'. You need to flip it over.

The outlets should be to the REAR of the car, and the inlet to the FRONT. The muffler should mount FLAT, and the F-body mufflers do.
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Thats not my car there

But mine is setup just like that.

If you look at it. How the Heck can you fit it the "right" way. you Can't. it will hit the heat shield.

Trust me. i sat under my car for 30min holding it every witch way to try to make it if the right way. you can not. unless you Mod the pipe and make it shorter up front. but then thats going to throw off the hole exhaust alignment.

if thats the wrong way and there was a better way, how come no one stepped in when i made my post over a year ago

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=49340



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Look at the difference in the Pipe spacing on the Muffler
Old 06-15-2007, 10:21 AM
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Because nobody here reads EVERY topic. It'* impossible.

Now you see why we use F-body mufflers? We don't end up with upside down goofy installs.

I'll take a good shot of the install on the Zilla when I get it up in the air this afternoon.
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these mufflers sound good (deep low growl)

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...44863_-1_10265

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I must have said something in this "forum'*" thread someone did not like cause now its deleted.

Anyone got any other ideas how that happened? Cause all I said was sometimes the word performance is attached to sound not simply hp or something like that.

Lets just practice some "moderation" here not complete fascism okay?
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If you have concerns about a deleted post, please PM someone on staff that may know why, instead of calling the staff fascists okay?

Please keep it on topic.
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Cooey, I got your PM and explained that I didn't delete any reply from you.

Then I come in here to figure out what it was, and I find you calling some anonymous member of the Staff a Fascist?

Read this:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=48871

Then respond to me Via PM with your apology, which I will post for the Moderators to read in their section.

'Sometimes' a muffler'* sound is considered a performance SOUND, but it is not typically a Performance upgrade, particularly in our application.
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I encouraged the PRACTICE of moderation and NOT the PRACTICE of fascism.

THAT is not name calling: to encourage the practice of onething and not something else. I did not use the word fascist. That would be name calling.

I pm'ed you asking if you deleted my post. I told you what was in it originally. That was all.

What would I apologize for? I did not call anyone, anonymous or otherwise, any names.

Someone should apologize to me for deleting my post and not explaining why.


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