Oil Pressure
12-19-2003, 04:07 PM
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Go talk to a lawyer, and the stores owner. If the owner won't help you out, tell him you'll do a chargeback, and then go the BBB. If you don't get anything, still, do the chargeback.
12-19-2003, 04:12 PM
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The mech is telling me that the company I got the longblock from should have said a new front cover would be recommened. Shouldn't these people as certified mechs already know that? So much for NAPA ceritfied shops. That doesn't mean jack to me anymore. I could have done a better job and if there was a screw up at least I could only look at myself instead of some ***** that doesn't really give a flip to begin with.
12-19-2003, 04:12 PM
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Worst part is I'm sitting here with my foot broke again (military disability) so I can't even put my foot in there butt! I did use a check card, but I'm not really sure what to do right now. I'd really like to know why the other mech at this shop told me pressure was fine and it'* just the gauge. I ended up paying full cost on an oil sending unit and install and there was no issue there to begin with!
12-19-2003, 04:20 PM
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Did a new oil pump get installed with the engine? They may not have got the tolerances correct on the oil pump. There is a certain amount of spacing that has to be checked with a feeler guage, and the cover for the oil pump on the timing cover has to be assembled with the correct torque specs. Also the pick up tube has to be transferred and if they used an old gasket, that could be the issue. I just installed a brand new GM engine in my ride and I was very careful with this part. Fortunately, mine had the new cover and oil pump pre-installed.
That sucks man. Get with the local BBB!!
That sucks man. Get with the local BBB!!
12-19-2003, 04:24 PM
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I will call my bank to find out how that goes down but I will wait until I'm not angry to make a decission on what to do. It is a small town here, and even if I don't like it because of the warranty I have to stick with the installer. I'm screwed I think. I already talk with Powersource and got a claim number and now have to wait while they and the mech figure out what'* going on, and I'm pretty sure in the long run I'm going to get dumped on.
Will, rember what I told you last night about detailing the interior? I should have kept my mouth shut I think.
Will, rember what I told you last night about detailing the interior? I should have kept my mouth shut I think.
12-19-2003, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 94SuperWhiteLight
Did a new oil pump get installed with the engine? They may not have got the tolerances correct on the oil pump. There is a certain amount of spacing that has to be checked with a feeler guage, and the cover for the oil pump on the timing cover has to be assembled with the correct torque specs. Also the pick up tube has to be transferred and if they used an old gasket, that could be the issue. I just installed a brand new GM engine in my ride and I was very careful with this part. Fortunately, mine had the new cover and oil pump pre-installed.
That sucks man. Get with the local BBB!!
That sucks man. Get with the local BBB!!
12-19-2003, 04:49 PM
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I don't know much abuot the 3800 oil pumps yet, but are you going to need to pull the engine out to do this? Otherwise, i'd say you, wren, and Dr. jay hook up, tackle it! Then get money from the shop.
12-19-2003, 04:56 PM
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It'* part of the front cover which I think would need to be machined to spec. I know we can't macine it, only have it done. Also the warranty will be voided if someone besides the original installer messes with it.
12-19-2003, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jr's3800
I'm sorry to hear that you too are having trouble Justin.... Thats just a damn shame the way these mechanics ( So they call themselves ) do people wrong, or just do a bad job overall... If this was a chevy engine than the easy course would have been to get a good oil pump, like a mellings High Volume.... But you have the oil pump in the front cover, and it is rebuildable.... But it has to be within certain tollerances to be acceptable for reuse... The gears and the fron cover can only have so much wear... If the surfaces are worn than all of the parts must be replaced, A rebuild of the oil pump would do no good in that case, This may very well be your case... I have also seen where the front cover can only have a certain amount of wear... Anything past that and you will have to have a new front cover... I think they Being NAPA could have easily ordered a new front cover assembly, this is what they should have done if they didn't feel good about the condition of the old cover...
I just do not understand why these people can call themselves mechanics... If I ever have to have an engine rebuilt, I'll do it myself... You are the second person that has had serious trouble in the last couple of months... This is just wrong...
On another note, being that they knew the old engine was having oil pressure issues, and knocking, they should have checked everything out, including the oil pump... Just the fact that they kept saying that oil pressure was normal and you now know that the pressure was truely dead low, I feel you were being lied too, and they may be trying to cover up for a big mistake... I don't know what will come of your ordeal, but do what you can to press the issue with all of the right people...
On another note, when the oil pump was rebuilt and installed on the engine the gears should have been packed with Vaseline,once an oil pump is rebuilt its no longer primed and thats where the vaseline comes in and the oil filter should have been filled as full as possible with oil... When they started the engine the oil pressure should have come up quickly, any dry run time on these parts is bad... I just do not know what to say to you on this matter at the moment... I know you are Pissed as you should be... I have a right foot, maybe I'll have to visit Willwren in Oregon and we'll all put a foot up this guys ***...
If I did live near Bill, I would have perfered that we removed the engine and do the overhaul on our own.. At least we would have known for sure that the engine would have ran without any of the issues that the other mechanic caused... Sorry if I seem a Bit irratated... I just can't believe what these people will do to a car...
I just do not understand why these people can call themselves mechanics... If I ever have to have an engine rebuilt, I'll do it myself... You are the second person that has had serious trouble in the last couple of months... This is just wrong...
On another note, being that they knew the old engine was having oil pressure issues, and knocking, they should have checked everything out, including the oil pump... Just the fact that they kept saying that oil pressure was normal and you now know that the pressure was truely dead low, I feel you were being lied too, and they may be trying to cover up for a big mistake... I don't know what will come of your ordeal, but do what you can to press the issue with all of the right people...
On another note, when the oil pump was rebuilt and installed on the engine the gears should have been packed with Vaseline,once an oil pump is rebuilt its no longer primed and thats where the vaseline comes in and the oil filter should have been filled as full as possible with oil... When they started the engine the oil pressure should have come up quickly, any dry run time on these parts is bad... I just do not know what to say to you on this matter at the moment... I know you are Pissed as you should be... I have a right foot, maybe I'll have to visit Willwren in Oregon and we'll all put a foot up this guys ***...
If I did live near Bill, I would have perfered that we removed the engine and do the overhaul on our own.. At least we would have known for sure that the engine would have ran without any of the issues that the other mechanic caused... Sorry if I seem a Bit irratated... I just can't believe what these people will do to a car...
12-19-2003, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Justind23
It'* part of the front cover which I think would need to be machined to spec. I know we can't macine it, only have it done. Also the warranty will be voided if someone besides the original installer messes with it.
I ment to quote BonneMeMN on that post, but I do agree on the mechs first report to me, that it was just the guage reading wrong and that the oil sending unit being replaced fixed it being messed up. It'* makes me feel like I'll have problems all the way around on this motor. Makes me lose confidence in the rest of the work, and the car overall and that'* a crap feeling.