Hot in Louisiana without AC
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Originally Posted by pinionlc
I see a problem...after replacing my heater core, I put back on the large plastic housing that went around the heather core. On that housing was a small plastic box (i think it controls the airmix door). On that box is a metal rod, which broke off in reinstallation. I can fix the problem by reattaching the rod, but where does the rod connect to other than the plastic housing?
BTW, I have the manual (3 *****) controller.
BTW, I have the manual (3 *****) controller.
The small plastic box is the airmix actuator, and the rod that comes off the box snaps into a small, white, round connector on the airmix door.
This pic is looking through a hole, behind the glovebox that shows the rod in place in the white connector. The trick is to line up the rod with the connector and, using a long flat-bladded screwdriver to "pop" the rod back into the connector. The white connector has a v-shaped groove on the top to help guide/line-up the rod. The rod has threads on the end that goes into the white connector and the threads need to be in line with the connector.
So, start your car and set your temperature **** to "Full Hot". Let it run for at least 45 -60 seconds. This moves the "rod" all the way to the passenger side to calibrate the system and moves the rod to line up best with the connector. The airmix door and it'* white connecter should already be over as far as it can go to the passenger side.
Use the screw driver to line up the rod on top of the connector and to "spin/rotate" the white connector until you think/feel/see the rod drop into the v-groove on top. Then carefully use the screwdriver to "pop" the rod into place. If all works well and your actuator (the small black box that the other end of the rod is connected to already) is not broken, you will have heat and cold again under your control.
This process sounds worse than it is and once you look through the hole and see the connector and rod, it starts to make sense. Don't get too frustrated if it takes a few tries to pop the rod onto the connector as lining it up takes some patience and a couple of tries.
Here is a bonus pic showing the rod/actuator location on top of the large plastic housing.
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Yes, that rod connects from the Actuator to the airmix door. Here'* a description from one of our members when he fixed his. He found a way to reconnect it without taking everything apart.
Hopefully, your airmix actuator isn't toast also. Have you read all the linked threads posted earlier in this thread? There is a ton of info in those threads that should help you a lot.
EDIT: Too slow on the post again, lol. Really good write up Bob. TECHINFO stuff, IMO.
Originally Posted by J57ltr
Well guys thanks for all your help we got it "fixed" for now. After setting the door ful right starting the car and raising the temp to 90* I watched the rod retract and at that point I got the slot aligned and used a screwdriver to raise it into position. I found that adding a piece of tape around the shaft about an inch from the point that I could slide the screwdriver under the threaded bar where the small access hole is. When I pushed the screwdriver under the rod it would catch on the tape and I could then place it into the slot (that I lined up earlier). Then using the screwdriver to insert through the hole, pop the rod down into the slot, while holding the door closed with a second screwdriver We did it about 3 times because I wasn’t sure if the door was fully closed the first time.
When we started the car we could watch it pull slightly back and then stay. When we moved the control to 60* the door only opened half way. I was able to nudge it with a screwdriver and it opened fully. I thought it wasn’t calibrated right so I R&R’ed it for the last time. We cycled between full hot and full cold a few times and I could see the motor either bind up or there are a couple of teeth stripped in a gearbox or something (I don’t know if it’* a linear actuator, rack and pinion or crankbell linkage), I’m guessing. After several more times it seemed to start working on it’* own without help. For right now it seems to be fixed but looks to need a new actuator assy.
When we started the car we could watch it pull slightly back and then stay. When we moved the control to 60* the door only opened half way. I was able to nudge it with a screwdriver and it opened fully. I thought it wasn’t calibrated right so I R&R’ed it for the last time. We cycled between full hot and full cold a few times and I could see the motor either bind up or there are a couple of teeth stripped in a gearbox or something (I don’t know if it’* a linear actuator, rack and pinion or crankbell linkage), I’m guessing. After several more times it seemed to start working on it’* own without help. For right now it seems to be fixed but looks to need a new actuator assy.
EDIT: Too slow on the post again, lol. Really good write up Bob. TECHINFO stuff, IMO.
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The white plastic connector for the rod on the actuator is actually the one that is broken, but only a small piece broke off....i believe that I can fix it with some zip ties.
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Originally Posted by pinionlc
The white plastic connector for the rod on the actuator is actually the one that is broken, but only a small piece broke off....i believe that I can fix it with some zip ties.
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I decided that a zip tie wouldn't work as well as a bread tie because I needed the rod to be able to turn. A zip tie would keep it too stationary and put a bind on the actuator. I double bread tied it and lay there under the dash watching the arm move and work well while I was switchng the AC controlers.
Thanks for your help guys! For a while I thought that nobody was going to lend me some information and then I checked back a few days later and ya'll were waiting on me
Once again, thanks! It is hot in Louisiana with this humidity. Bring on the hurricane season!
Thanks for your help guys! For a while I thought that nobody was going to lend me some information and then I checked back a few days later and ya'll were waiting on me
Once again, thanks! It is hot in Louisiana with this humidity. Bring on the hurricane season!
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You'll have to check on the bread tie fix every once in a while, as that wire doesn't like to be flexed too many times before it breaks. However, it might last for quite a while before you have to redo it.
And sorry we didn't get to you earlier. Sometimes Echo'* on siesta and I have to call in an Arizona camel to wake him up.
Glad you have air now!
And sorry we didn't get to you earlier. Sometimes Echo'* on siesta and I have to call in an Arizona camel to wake him up.
Glad you have air now!
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So....you have your cold air back? Ah.....great to hear.
I saw your original post the day you posted it, then must have had a mental lapse (yeah, I am old). Luckily the camel was sent to remind me that you had an issue we hadn't addressed, yet.
If those bread ties ever fail, and you need a new plastic connector, we will see if one of our junkyard dawgs can find one.
I saw your original post the day you posted it, then must have had a mental lapse (yeah, I am old). Luckily the camel was sent to remind me that you had an issue we hadn't addressed, yet.
If those bread ties ever fail, and you need a new plastic connector, we will see if one of our junkyard dawgs can find one.
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"Econ" mode, huh?
Roll the windows down and hope for the best?
I grabbed my owners manual from my '97, and don't see an "econ" mode or setting.
Max A/C uses mostly air from inside the vehicle while A/C draws in outside air. I don't have the service manuals with me, but can look for "econ" later.
Roll the windows down and hope for the best?
I grabbed my owners manual from my '97, and don't see an "econ" mode or setting.
Max A/C uses mostly air from inside the vehicle while A/C draws in outside air. I don't have the service manuals with me, but can look for "econ" later.