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Help me out fellas - My Bonny wont start!!

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Old 10-22-2002, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator
Ok, crying doesnt describe it. I'm I'm stright F'in pissed off. My mechanic calls me at 3, tells me that he went out to work on my car after I had it towed there this morning, he gets in, and the thing starts right up! Now WTF. I was actually hoping something was broken so that I could get it FIXED and not have to worry about this anymore. Now he said there is really no way for him to tell exactly wtf is going wrong because the problem isnt replicatiing. Hes a pretty cool guy and a friend of mine, so just for ***** n giggles he threw a pressure tester on the fuel rail and everything'* fine. He also scanned the computer and no codes. He still insists on it being a Crank sesnor, and recommended I come back and have him replace that before it leaves me stranded somewhere, but even then he couldnt give me a guarantee thats what it was and would fix it.

Anyways, here'* what I want to know. I have a father whos worked for Bosch for 27 years now, and kinda has an in as far as getting me any parts for cars, wether they are Bosch, Delco, Etc.. Over the years, you just kinda become friends with people, etc.. Anyways, I can pretty much get AC parts for my Bonny for nothing so heres what I want to do. I'm definetely going to have him get me a Crankshaft Position Sensor, and also and Ignition Control Module just in case (from what I've been reading those are the 2 most common answers). I also had my mechanic look and see why I've been dripping oil and tranny fluid all over the place, and hes telling me that the tranny fluid is coming from a shot front right half-shaft seal coming out of my tranny, and the oil is coming from both a shot oil pan gasket and my oil pressure switch is leaking, nothing major. For some reason, although I didnt mention this to my mechainc, I also think my intake gaskets are on their way out (Upper and lower plenum gaksets, etc..) and they could probably really be cleaned anyways, so I want to do those.

How long does it take and whats involved in replacing the Crank Sensor?
How long does it take and whats involved in the front right half shaft seal?
How long does it take and whats involved in doing upper/lower intake gaskets?
And lastly,
Who wants to come to NY for a weekend and hang out and help me do it?
Crank sensor? You have the Torque wrench and puller. 3-4 hours.
Half-shaft seal? Do it at the same time, since you have to pull the rf wheel and fender liner to do the crank sensor. Dunno how long. Maybe another 2?
Upper and lower intake gaskets I'm guessing 4-5 hours, but we haven't done it to Josh'* car, so you get to tell US when you're done.
Where'* NY?
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Hey, Term, while you're at it.....how many miles on your timing chain? You're gonna be in there for the CPS anyway.

Just a thought. JR'* got some mileage recommenations for those....I think.....
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Well, heres the verdict...

I've decided not to attempt to do this myself, seems how I am way to busy lately and I just simply NEED my car. Its going back to my mechanic buddy on Friday to get the following done:

To Hopefully fix the No Start Problem:
1 AC-Delco Crankshaft Position Sensor Replacement Part #213-151
1 AC-Delco Ignition Control Module Replacement Part #D1977A
1 AC-Delco Fuel Pressure Regulator Replacement Part #217-1422

To Fix All my Fluid Leaks:
1 GM Oil Pan Gasket (Local Dealer - Approx $30)
1 AC-Delco Oil Pressure Switch Part #25627057
1 National Front Pass Axle Shaft Seal from Advance Part #3543

Only parts I have to pay for are $30 for the Oil Pan Gasket, $5 for the Seal, and 5-Quarts of Max Life 10w-30. The rest is all labor, so I'm geussing all this will probably run me around $300, and I'll drop my car off Friday morning before work, and pick it back up Friday evening after work. No dicking around, so its well worth it to me.

Thanks for all your help everyone!!!

I'm working on some sub-frame connectors next, seems how I've gotten pretty damn good at Autocad these past few months and I work for a company with a rather large machine/welding/fabrication shop! I'll keep everyone posted!!
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Originally Posted by Terminator
Well, heres the verdict...

I've decided not to attempt to do this myself, seems how I am way to busy lately and I just simply NEED my car. Its going back to my mechanic buddy on Friday to get the following done:

To Hopefully fix the No Start Problem:
1 AC-Delco Crankshaft Position Sensor Replacement Part #213-151
1 AC-Delco Ignition Control Module Replacement Part #D1977A
1 AC-Delco Fuel Pressure Regulator Replacement Part #217-1422

To Fix All my Fluid Leaks:
1 GM Oil Pan Gasket (Local Dealer - Approx $30)
1 AC-Delco Oil Pressure Switch Part #25627057
1 National Front Pass Axle Shaft Seal from Advance Part #3543

Only parts I have to pay for are $30 for the Oil Pan Gasket, $5 for the Seal, and 5-Quarts of Max Life 10w-30. The rest is all labor, so I'm geussing all this will probably run me around $300, and I'll drop my car off Friday morning before work, and pick it back up Friday evening after work. No dicking around, so its well worth it to me.

Thanks for all your help everyone!!!

I'm working on some sub-frame connectors next, seems how I've gotten pretty damn good at Autocad these past few months and I work for a company with a rather large machine/welding/fabrication shop! I'll keep everyone posted!!

The exact same thing happened to my '89. It turned out to be a bad ground wire .
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