Changing spark plugs? Ack..
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" I am totally in agreement with you there...
The reason why I think the 3800'* are some of the easiest V engines to change the plugs on.. Especially the C and H body FWD [/quote]
jr's3800, Sounds like you've done a few yourself. Like you, I almost enjoy the 3800'*.
Especially the series 1 cars.
On these motors, there are only a few jobs that require a little time and patience.
The rest is pretty easy.
The reason why I think the 3800'* are some of the easiest V engines to change the plugs on.. Especially the C and H body FWD [/quote]
jr's3800, Sounds like you've done a few yourself. Like you, I almost enjoy the 3800'*.
Especially the series 1 cars.
On these motors, there are only a few jobs that require a little time and patience.
The rest is pretty easy.
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Hey I just did this
The front ones are fairly strait forward, and I didn't have to much of a problem with the back ones. Removing the strut bar is a great idea (one I didn't think of). I also found that it'* much easier to remove the back ones without an extension. There'* enough room to crank without the extension, and it'* alot easier to manuever just the socket and ratchet as opposed to socket, extension, and ratchet. Anyways hope that helps.
On a different note I agree that this engine is not that difficult to work on. Especially as noted by Giterdun when you compare it with say a LT1 engine. I can tell you from personal experience that if anyone asks you to help them change the plugs on their '94 Trans Am, say no. If you show up to help them change their plugs and discover they also have a brand new set of long tube headers, then I would suggest turning around and running. Anyways I'm done venting .
On a different note I agree that this engine is not that difficult to work on. Especially as noted by Giterdun when you compare it with say a LT1 engine. I can tell you from personal experience that if anyone asks you to help them change the plugs on their '94 Trans Am, say no. If you show up to help them change their plugs and discover they also have a brand new set of long tube headers, then I would suggest turning around and running. Anyways I'm done venting .
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Originally Posted by Giterdun.
Well I will say that you haven't lived until you change plugs in these
cars : 1989-95 T-Bird Supercoupe
1994-97 Camaro,Firbird LT-1 :?
1993-96 Lincoln Mk-8
There are many more examples of I could mention as well.
cars : 1989-95 T-Bird Supercoupe
1994-97 Camaro,Firbird LT-1 :?
1993-96 Lincoln Mk-8
There are many more examples of I could mention as well.
and anything with the gm 2.8mpfi, 3.1mpfi, 3100, 3400 engines.
oh and the vortec v6 engines too, those are evil.
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Hop up on top of the motor...its the only way to work on it.
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I had to change the plugs on my 3800 II a while back, and I didn't think removing the strut tower brace was opitional. I just figured it was a must.
It is only a couple more minutes of work. It is easier than trying to work around it.
Is it even possible to work around that thing when doing back plugs?
And yep, sometimes you have to piece your ratchet/socket/extentions into place.
It is more a pain in the *** than complicated. You have to trace the wires to "braille" out where the plugs are, they are not really possible to see. And be REAL careful screwing the new ones in, don't force them with the ratchet until they hit bottom and ready for torquing.
HERE is something extra for who sees this -
The stupid heat shield for the spark plug wires, do those really need to be on there?
I didn't put them back on yet, and have been too lazy to do such. Only the back ones had the heat shields.
It is only a couple more minutes of work. It is easier than trying to work around it.
Is it even possible to work around that thing when doing back plugs?
And yep, sometimes you have to piece your ratchet/socket/extentions into place.
It is more a pain in the *** than complicated. You have to trace the wires to "braille" out where the plugs are, they are not really possible to see. And be REAL careful screwing the new ones in, don't force them with the ratchet until they hit bottom and ready for torquing.
HERE is something extra for who sees this -
The stupid heat shield for the spark plug wires, do those really need to be on there?
I didn't put them back on yet, and have been too lazy to do such. Only the back ones had the heat shields.
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Originally Posted by impatient99
I had to change the plugs on my 3800 II a while back, and I didn't think removing the strut tower brace was opitional. I just figured it was a must.
It is only a couple more minutes of work. It is easier than trying to work around it.
Is it even possible to work around that thing when doing back plugs?
It is only a couple more minutes of work. It is easier than trying to work around it.
Is it even possible to work around that thing when doing back plugs?
Definately optional. O2 sensor on the other hand...yes it optional, but it was NO FUN with it on.
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Hey, I'm a wimpy lil sh*t and I managed to change my plugs. Took off the STB, stood on a stool and went to town. Of course, I just about busted a knuckle...saw some blood and almost passed out....but my car runs just lovely now.
You can do it!!!!!
You can do it!!!!!