No power under 1/2 or more throttle:
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No power under 1/2 or more throttle:
I don't drive the car very much, but I was taking my father-in-law to work today and went to merge on the highway at around 1/2 to 3/4 throttle and it actually drug the car down. It hasn't done this before (to me, anyway). At the longest, it could only have been happening for about a week (since the last time I drove it). Anyone know what'* going on? Crank sensor, jumped time, something? I don't have a code-reader, and can't afford one right now. If that'* what I'm going to need to figure this out, is there anyone pretty close that can stop by and help me run these codes and try to diagnose this problem? I don't know crap about GM vehicles. Thanks.
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Hi Rick,
It could be that the engine is not getting sufficient fuel when it needs it. Does is bog down consistently under load? Could be a plugged fuel filter, bad gasoline, or a weak fuel pump. Could be a bad throttle position sensor (should have set a code). Could be retarded spark from mechanical noise, ignition module, coil, bad plugs or wires.
Unless you have done them recently, you might want to start with plugs, wires and fuel filter, as these should be changed periodically anyway. A fuel pressure test will give an indication of a failing fuel pump.
If anything is bad enough to have set a code, you should have a check engine light. If so, there are a lot of auto parts stores that will either loan you a code reader or pull the codes for you.
If a code has not been set, what you need is a scan tool to observe the various components while the problem is occurring. These are really expensive and usually come with expensive mechanics.
Others here will probably have additional (and maybe better) ideas. Let us know what you find out.
It could be that the engine is not getting sufficient fuel when it needs it. Does is bog down consistently under load? Could be a plugged fuel filter, bad gasoline, or a weak fuel pump. Could be a bad throttle position sensor (should have set a code). Could be retarded spark from mechanical noise, ignition module, coil, bad plugs or wires.
Unless you have done them recently, you might want to start with plugs, wires and fuel filter, as these should be changed periodically anyway. A fuel pressure test will give an indication of a failing fuel pump.
If anything is bad enough to have set a code, you should have a check engine light. If so, there are a lot of auto parts stores that will either loan you a code reader or pull the codes for you.
If a code has not been set, what you need is a scan tool to observe the various components while the problem is occurring. These are really expensive and usually come with expensive mechanics.
Others here will probably have additional (and maybe better) ideas. Let us know what you find out.
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Thanks for the reply. From what I know, the plugs were done right before I got the car. We've probably put about 7 or 8,000 miles on it since then. I just woke up shortly before I posted this, so I wasn't thinking about simple stuff. It happened so suddenly, though, so I'm doubting it is the plugs or wires. However, the fuel filter wouldn't surprise me. My wife just had the car filled up yesterday, so I'll find out where she filled it up at. She might have gotten bad gas. I'll try throwing a bottle or two of Heet in it to see if that helps the problem. If that doesn't take care of it, I'll pull the fuel filter and check the plugs to see what'* up. I'm not sure how much was done other than the plugs and wires before I got it, so I may just have to do a full tune-up on it. :( Hard to do with no money. If none of that works, I may just sell the Bonne and get a Ford. Nothing personal against the Bonne. I love the car, but I don't know anything about GM, and I grew up working on Fords. :( I've just put a bunch of money in it, and can't afford to keep doing it all the time right now with a third child on the way and me being the only one working right now.
Rick
Thanks for the reply. From what I know, the plugs were done right before I got the car. We've probably put about 7 or 8,000 miles on it since then. I just woke up shortly before I posted this, so I wasn't thinking about simple stuff. It happened so suddenly, though, so I'm doubting it is the plugs or wires. However, the fuel filter wouldn't surprise me. My wife just had the car filled up yesterday, so I'll find out where she filled it up at. She might have gotten bad gas. I'll try throwing a bottle or two of Heet in it to see if that helps the problem. If that doesn't take care of it, I'll pull the fuel filter and check the plugs to see what'* up. I'm not sure how much was done other than the plugs and wires before I got it, so I may just have to do a full tune-up on it. :( Hard to do with no money. If none of that works, I may just sell the Bonne and get a Ford. Nothing personal against the Bonne. I love the car, but I don't know anything about GM, and I grew up working on Fords. :( I've just put a bunch of money in it, and can't afford to keep doing it all the time right now with a third child on the way and me being the only one working right now.
Rick
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Yeah, life is funny. I just finished reconditioning a Ford truck that I now have for sale. You want to sell your GM, I want to sell my Ford. I think we just get used to working on the products from one company and the familiarity makes it easier to get things fixed. I've had all sorts of cars over the years and I have come to believe the 3800 engine is one of the world'* best.
I know about the no money thing too. But, life is less interesting and rewarding when we can afford to buy our way out of everyday challenges. It'* really fun to figure it out on your own and fix it cheap.
Maybe you will luck out and find it was just some bad gas or the filter. Just a few bucks either way. And the filter is a pretty easy job. I just changed the filter on my '95 SLE and with a pair of nitrile gloves on, never got one drop of gasoline on me! I think the new one was $11 at WalMart.
I know about the no money thing too. But, life is less interesting and rewarding when we can afford to buy our way out of everyday challenges. It'* really fun to figure it out on your own and fix it cheap.
Maybe you will luck out and find it was just some bad gas or the filter. Just a few bucks either way. And the filter is a pretty easy job. I just changed the filter on my '95 SLE and with a pair of nitrile gloves on, never got one drop of gasoline on me! I think the new one was $11 at WalMart.
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Are there any special tools involved with the fuel filter, or is it just as simple as using a screwdriver to pop a clip off?
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Well, if your '94 is like my '95, you unscrew the cap on the fuel rail and press in the shrader valve covered with a rag to relieve the pressure in the fuel line. Then jack and block the car up at the passenger rear wheel. The filter is right in front of the wheel on the inside of the body rail. I put an oil drain pan under the filter and blew the quick disconnect on the rear clean with compressed air, twisting it a 1/4 turn. Then with the appropriate flare wrenches, broke loose the front fitting. Let the gas drain, undo the front fitting, undo the clip on the rear and slide it off. Reverse to install. The front nut is low torque - only about 11 ft-lb.
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I just went out and put some heet in the car, along with some octane boost to clear things up. I drove it about 2 miles to get it worked in. I got back to the driveway and put it in park, then held the gas to the floor, it stopped around 2000 rpm. I then gave it about 3/4 throttle (maybe a little less) and it very slowly climbed to about 4300 rpm and immediately dropped to around 35-3700 rpm. It yo-yoed between those two rpm levels and it sounded like a "puff" came from the engine each time it hit 4300 and started to drop. A guy stopped by today and mentioned the MAF sensor. Could that be it? Or is there something wrong with the motor (in specific, the "puffing" sound)?
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I'd drive it for at least 15-20 miles to get the heeted gas into the fuel lines and to the injectors. Beat it up a bit and it'll either start acting right or stay the same.
Once took about 100 miles for a car to get the water out of the lines...gotta burn off what is in the lines...and it'* more than you think.
Once took about 100 miles for a car to get the water out of the lines...gotta burn off what is in the lines...and it'* more than you think.
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I do still need to sell it, though. It did run better later. I took it to the car wash and sprayed it down. I let it run the entire time, too. By the time I headed back, it wasn't dragging down at WOT anymore, but it was still a little sluggish. It might be correcting itself now. I'll take it for a drive tomorrow for about 20 miles at least, then I'll see how it'* doing. I just need to get something bigger anyway.
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