'95 SSEi AC weirdness - I may sell it anyway - interested?
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'95 SSEi AC weirdness - I may sell it anyway - interested?
I have a '95 SSEi, black with black leather, and it is close to rolling up 93,000 miles. It seems to be running fine, but for the past several weeks my air conditioning has done some wild things.
When you turn on the air it takes about 30 seconds to a minute for it to cool off. Until it cools off it blows hot air, but once it does cool off the air is blowing out at 48 degrees, so it then cools everything off fine. The Pontiac dealership says it may take 8 hours to take the dash out and to fix the problem which must be in an A/C valve or relay.
I believe them because Tom Duncan Pontiac here in South Carolina is not only a completely ethical dealership but they are good friends of ours. I'm probably going to sell the car soon anyway. I'd like to get something a little more mileage-conscious, but this is a GREAT car.
Anybody interested in buying it? It has these extras:
Climate Control Digital Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
Cruise Control
AM/FM Stereo
Single Compact Disc
Dual Front Air Bags
ABS (4-Wheel)
Leather
Dual 12-Way Power Seats
Moon Roof
Rear Spoiler
Premium Wheels
I'd like to get $3500 for it. Let me know if you are interested here on the board. I've been thoroughly pleased with my Bonnevilles in the past (I had a '93 for 5 years and 190,000 miles)!
Any input from your pros would be welcomed, too, about the A/C. Thanks!
When you turn on the air it takes about 30 seconds to a minute for it to cool off. Until it cools off it blows hot air, but once it does cool off the air is blowing out at 48 degrees, so it then cools everything off fine. The Pontiac dealership says it may take 8 hours to take the dash out and to fix the problem which must be in an A/C valve or relay.
I believe them because Tom Duncan Pontiac here in South Carolina is not only a completely ethical dealership but they are good friends of ours. I'm probably going to sell the car soon anyway. I'd like to get something a little more mileage-conscious, but this is a GREAT car.
Anybody interested in buying it? It has these extras:
Climate Control Digital Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
Cruise Control
AM/FM Stereo
Single Compact Disc
Dual Front Air Bags
ABS (4-Wheel)
Leather
Dual 12-Way Power Seats
Moon Roof
Rear Spoiler
Premium Wheels
I'd like to get $3500 for it. Let me know if you are interested here on the board. I've been thoroughly pleased with my Bonnevilles in the past (I had a '93 for 5 years and 190,000 miles)!
Any input from your pros would be welcomed, too, about the A/C. Thanks!
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When the dealer is saying that the dash needs to be removed, it usually means that they think you have an air mix actuator problem. This is also known as a ait temp actuator. I'm not convinced that the actuator is your problem though. Usually when it fails it will always blow hot (or cold) air and will be accompanied by a flashing temp display on the ECC head. If you know what to look for, you can observe the motion of the actuator through the glove box with minimal disassembly.
You first need to remove the inner glove box. There are about six 7mm screws. Once it is removed, you will see two holes in the black steel dash structure. Use a flashlight and look through the left hole. You should see something like in the second pic. the silver threaded rod is attached to the air mix actuator. This in turn moves the air mix door lever (yellowish part). With the car running, adjust the temp on the ECC head from full hot to full cold and back to hot. You should observe the threaded rod pushing and pulling the air mix door lever. It has roughly a 90* swing and should not stop or pause. If it does than the air mix door is suspect. If it moves smoothly through the entire range, it'* something else.
On very hod days, my AC blows hot ait initially. I've never timed it but it comes out not hot after maybe 10 seconds. it doesn't get really cold until I'm driving and keeping the RPMs above 1500. Then it gets really cold
You first need to remove the inner glove box. There are about six 7mm screws. Once it is removed, you will see two holes in the black steel dash structure. Use a flashlight and look through the left hole. You should see something like in the second pic. the silver threaded rod is attached to the air mix actuator. This in turn moves the air mix door lever (yellowish part). With the car running, adjust the temp on the ECC head from full hot to full cold and back to hot. You should observe the threaded rod pushing and pulling the air mix door lever. It has roughly a 90* swing and should not stop or pause. If it does than the air mix door is suspect. If it moves smoothly through the entire range, it'* something else.
On very hod days, my AC blows hot ait initially. I've never timed it but it comes out not hot after maybe 10 seconds. it doesn't get really cold until I'm driving and keeping the RPMs above 1500. Then it gets really cold
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Great info...
That'* great information. I'm not sure what to do once I get to see what'* going on, but I can sure dig into it to see just what might be going on now that I have this info.
I still may sell it, but I can at least check this out. Thanks VERY much for the pictures and descriptions. That kind of help is TREMENDOUSLY appreciated since I don't do much A/C work at all.
I still may sell it, but I can at least check this out. Thanks VERY much for the pictures and descriptions. That kind of help is TREMENDOUSLY appreciated since I don't do much A/C work at all.
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