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1999 Bonneville SE - missing IAT?

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Default 1999 Bonneville SE - missing IAT?

My car is a 1999 Bonneville SE....

I'm starting to transition slowly from a "check the fluids and change the oil" type of DIY'er to someone who, hopefully, can save a few more bucks by doing the next set of maintenance jobs myself (e.g. flush the coolant, check PCV, etc.). When getting ready to clean the throttle body this evening, however, I noticed that the air intake tube between the air box / filter and the throttle body had a dime-sized hole in it (pre-fab hole, not like someone stuck a screw-driver through it). Upon further investigation, it certainly looks like the exact position as the IAT in the photo this this thread (https://www.gmforum.com/normal-maintainence-138/intake-air-temp-iat-sensor-replace-284335/ ). My car has been getting considerably worse gas mileage recently (26-27 mpg almost 100% highway with cruise 60-70 mph vs. 30-32 mpg I got year ago), but I attributed that to new tires.

My SES light came on a year ago, and the tech at the repair place said it was a code thrown for the vapor/evaporation system. He checked out the obvious places, but couldn't find anything, and I didn't want to pay for him to continue to hunt down a small hole somewhere. As such, for the past 12-14 months, my SES has stayed on. I've had the car in for some other work in that time (most recently about 3-4 months ago as a result of misfiring that required new plugs and wires, replacing ones that had ~80k miles on them), and the techs, when they've pulled the codes, haven't said anything about an IAT sensor error being thrown. Can they IAT sensor really be missing? Again, I can stick my pinky finger into the hole in the tube (located just beyond the air box and that metal screw tightener deal). I looked around that area for any dangling wires that would tell me that the sensor fell out and got ripped apart, but I didn't find anything.

FWIW, I started to look into doing some DIY maintenance because my idle the past month or two has been rough, particularly right after starting the car. After I start the car, the engine will idle around 1500-1600 RPM until I rev it or drive away. If I drive it immediately after starting it, the car "jerk"/hesitate a bit, though that usually goes away after 20-30 seconds. At any rate, all of this got me to start looking at cleaning the throttle body, which got me to notice the issue addressed in this post. Thanks!
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Look around for the plug, it should be right in that area. If you find it and the IAT is there, put it in the hole. If it'* not there, just PM me. I have like 3 or 4 of them here.
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Yea, its possible the mechanic took the duct off during diagnostics and it might have came out without him knowing. It'* probably laying down there somewhere.
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Where'* does the sensor wiring terminate? I just spent like 10 minutes poking around, tracing all the wiring that I can see in that part of the engine compartment, and I just can't see any wiring that doesn't look like it belongs where it is right now.

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Just have to go and trace the wires again trace from your pcm to the engine( pcm is next to your air box), but until then I would really plug that whole with something. Right now you are pulling unfiltered air into your engine.
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Originally Posted by Nighthwk12
Just have to go and trace the wires again trace from your pcm to the engine( pcm is next to your air box), but until then I would really plug that whole with something. Right now you are pulling unfiltered air into your engine.
Fortunately, I finally found the sensor+wire dangling near the transmission. If nothing else, at least the sensor was still attached, though I'd probably have to hook up an OBDII reader to see if it'* still good anymore.

Thanks for the help!
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I don't see why it wouldn't be ok. Unless the wiring was jeopardized, or the sensor itself was damaged.

If it was damaged, I'm sure you would get a check engine light.
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The sensor should be just fine. Put it back in the hole and all should be fine.
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Originally Posted by WxGuy1
My car has been getting considerably worse gas mileage recently (26-27 mpg almost 100% highway with cruise 60-70 mph vs. 30-32 mpg I got year ago), but I attributed that to new tires.
****. im thrilled if i get 20 right now. The highest I have got in the 6 months since I have owned the car is 21.8mpg. Mind you I just now diagnosed that i've had a bad MAF since if owned the car so and ill idle outside of work for like 5-10 before i go in. but I am hoping the new/used MAF I get helps that.

Originally Posted by WxGuy1
FWIW, I started to look into doing some DIY maintenance because my idle the past month or two has been rough, particularly right after starting the car. After I start the car, the engine will idle around 1500-1600 RPM until I rev it or drive away. If I drive it immediately after starting it, the car "jerk"/hesitate a bit, though that usually goes away after 20-30 seconds. At any rate, all of this got me to start looking at cleaning the throttle body, which got me to notice the issue addressed in this post. Thanks!
I have/had the same problem. Look above. Check your MAF. Mine will idle rough for a bit, rev up to like 2500rpm come back down and idle just fine.
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