1997 compression issues
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1997 compression issues
one of the cylinders is running low compression and as a result I failed the idle portion of the e-test...
this was a scrap car that I've been bringing back to life....so far the cost is just under $2000 including the car and I've done the following:
replaced windshield
new muffler
bodywork
MASSIVE interior clean
rear brakes
brake lines
oil pan
valve cover gaskets (were leaking)
as for the compression....I've replaced the spark plug...next step is wires...from there where should I go?
I was thinking....injector, then head gasket....after that?????
this was a scrap car that I've been bringing back to life....so far the cost is just under $2000 including the car and I've done the following:
replaced windshield
new muffler
bodywork
MASSIVE interior clean
rear brakes
brake lines
oil pan
valve cover gaskets (were leaking)
as for the compression....I've replaced the spark plug...next step is wires...from there where should I go?
I was thinking....injector, then head gasket....after that?????
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Compression on one cylinder? You're heading in the wrong direction.
Rings or valves, typically. Almost never a head gasket. Spark plug is possible, but certainly not a wire.
How about you do a wet and dry compression check to see if it'* the rings?
Rings or valves, typically. Almost never a head gasket. Spark plug is possible, but certainly not a wire.
How about you do a wet and dry compression check to see if it'* the rings?
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Sounds like he didn't mean compression, maybe he'* getting a misfire code. I can't even figure how a spark plug could be a possibility. Plug would have to be removed to do a compression test. Is there some other way to determine low compression?
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Ok, here is the story, sorry for the lack of clarity...I was there this morning and got everything cleared up.
At first it was running poorly, we thought maybe a misfire so we checked the spark, replaced the plug, and replaced the wire. Next assumption was fuel, replaced injector...it'* fine, still lousy running. Next was the compression, it was low and ranged from 85-100. Now...I took it to the e-test (just to see if I could luck out) facility and it failed. Here are the readings:
ASM2525 TEST
RPM: 1628
Dilution: 14.8
HC ppm: Limit - 55 , Reading - 19 (Pass)
CO%: Limit - 0.31 , Reading - 0.07 (Pass)
NO ppm: Limit - 408, Reading - 23 (Pass)
CURB IDLE TEST
RPM: 837
Dilution: 9.8
HC ppm: Limit - 200, Reading - 1455 (Fail)
CO%: Limit - 1.00 , Reading - 1.88 (Fail)
NO ppm: N/A
Soooo.....I'm thinking a few things....
1) The valve guides are off a bit
2) Bad rings
3) both of the above
Any other ideas?
The sad part is that it'* #4 so it'* going to be a bit of a p.i.t.a to tear everything apart. I'm thinking I'll try and pull the heads off and see what'* going on in the next few weeks. I just need to get some $$ together to start buting all of the gaskets I'll have to replace on the way. Might as well do the head gasket while I'm in there [/u]
At first it was running poorly, we thought maybe a misfire so we checked the spark, replaced the plug, and replaced the wire. Next assumption was fuel, replaced injector...it'* fine, still lousy running. Next was the compression, it was low and ranged from 85-100. Now...I took it to the e-test (just to see if I could luck out) facility and it failed. Here are the readings:
ASM2525 TEST
RPM: 1628
Dilution: 14.8
HC ppm: Limit - 55 , Reading - 19 (Pass)
CO%: Limit - 0.31 , Reading - 0.07 (Pass)
NO ppm: Limit - 408, Reading - 23 (Pass)
CURB IDLE TEST
RPM: 837
Dilution: 9.8
HC ppm: Limit - 200, Reading - 1455 (Fail)
CO%: Limit - 1.00 , Reading - 1.88 (Fail)
NO ppm: N/A
Soooo.....I'm thinking a few things....
1) The valve guides are off a bit
2) Bad rings
3) both of the above
Any other ideas?
The sad part is that it'* #4 so it'* going to be a bit of a p.i.t.a to tear everything apart. I'm thinking I'll try and pull the heads off and see what'* going on in the next few weeks. I just need to get some $$ together to start buting all of the gaskets I'll have to replace on the way. Might as well do the head gasket while I'm in there [/u]
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What were the other compression readings?
I'd check the resistance of all the coils to rule out an ignition problem for the poor E-test.
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=33
I'd check the resistance of all the coils to rule out an ignition problem for the poor E-test.
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=33
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100 psi on the compression test is fine, as long as the others are the same. 10% variance between cyls is acceptable. So if you had 100, 110, 105, 95, 100, etc, etc, you are probably fine. If all the others are hitting at 100, and this one cyl is 85, it'* probably not the end of the world. Do a wet test and this will rule out rings, and isolate it to the head, etc. Valve guides will most likely not cause this. They will cause slight oil usage, but not likely low compression. Do all the test first, before pulling it all apart. You're going to be pissed if you tear it all down, and spend all the $$$ on gaskets, just to find that you had a bad coil, etc. You'll also be pissed if you tear it down, have the heads done, to find that the rings were bad.
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Originally Posted by Damemorder
Idle is a little high, Tried warming the car up first?
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